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What an amazing trailer. I may be mistaken, but the music, though lovely, isn't from the movie, or at least, certainly isn't the main theme; the one Scorsese used at the end of CASINO. And it looks amazing, similar to that print I saw at MOMA so many years ago. I'm in!
 

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What an amazing trailer. I may be mistaken, but the music, though lovely, isn't from the movie, or at least, certainly isn't the main theme; the one Scorsese used at the end of CASINO. And it looks amazing, similar to that print I saw at MOMA so many years ago. I'm in!
It’s definitely still Georges Delerue though, isn’t it? But I can’t place it in the actual movie either. But it’s very fine indeed. This is slated for UHD release from June 14.
 

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It’s definitely still Georges Delerue though, isn’t it? But I can’t place it in the actual movie either. But it’s very fine indeed. This is slated for UHD release from June 14.
Nice to have a date for it. I want that new poster they mention in th press release. I do have this one already framed in my place...
 

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Just ordered from fnac, despatching June 14. Not yet cleared on the three relevant amazon sites. Fnac is expensive for express international but frankly worth it. When this is one of your ten greatest films of all time. Listening again the music for this trailer has big brass and double bass scoring and certainly ain’t remotely like Delerue. Does anyone know who wrote it?
 

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It’s definitely still Georges Delerue though, isn’t it? But I can’t place it in the actual movie either. But it’s very fine indeed. This is slated for UHD release from June 14.
Yes. It's definitely Delerue. And it sounds familiar, but I don't think it's any of the cues from Le mepris. I have a CD of themes from Godard films, and there are four from Le mepris and this cue isn't there. I mean, Delerue was so damned prolific. It could be anything. While it works well with the trailer, it doesn't have the resonance of that haunting "tragic-romantic" theme, with those long harmonic lines, chromatic and almost tipping out into atonality, that is under the main title in Le mepris. It's very "Viennese". It gets under your skin, in a way the cue used for the trailer doesn't. It may be Delerue's greatest creation, along with The Conformist.
 

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Maybe Canal has a phantom trailer composer/editor beavering away in the shadows. Whoever they are they did a fabulous job with this. It's definitely Delerue-esque, but it's been timed to just contain the length of the trailer with rises and surges at all the big grabby visual points. It's brilliant. I've been reading some of the dreck on this over at that other site whose honchos include the good doc and the dude who knows everything who are trashing Hiventy's reputation as though they're some kind of well known FUBAR-ist of bad encodes and grades. That place really elevates dick waving to an Olympic sport.
 

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Fnac posted my order two days early on the 12th. Now on its last leg to NZ So I’ll have it to re-view on the weekend. As is the new 4K Conformist from Italian Amazon. It just struck me that both works which will arrive virtually together are each adaptations from Moravia.
 

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Fnac posted my order two days early on the 12th. Now on its last leg to NZ So I’ll have it to re-view on the weekend. As is the new 4K Conformist from Italian Amazon. It just struck me that both works which will arrive virtually together are each adaptations from Moravia.
Lucky you. I placed my order yesterday for Le Mepris at Amazon.uk along with the Lizzzie extravaganza The Driver's Seat, but I'm not supposed to get them until mid July.
 

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Lucky you. I placed my order yesterday for Le Mepris at Amazon.uk along with the Lizzzie extravaganza The Driver's Seat, but I'm not supposed to get them until mid July.
Does anyone have a link to purchase the poster for the new restoration? It is mentioned on the studiocanal site but I don't see any link to purchase it. Any insight would be appreciated. M
 

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Does anyone have a link to purchase the poster for the new restoration? It is mentioned on the studiocanal site but I don't see any link to purchase it. Any insight would be appreciated. M
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Received Le Mépris 4k today and watched it straightaway (had to break half way to pick up my son from school!). The image is very good (although there are some slight fluctuations) and colour excellent (vegetation, red Alfa). The exterior scenes are nicely vibrant contrasting with the studio interiors. There are two English subtitle tracks (3 & 5), set it to 3 (not quite sure of the difference). It's a bit disconcerting when there is speech without titles but this is mainly while Francesca is translating for Prokosch. I think the score accompanying the recent trailer is a new (lovely) arrangement of Camille's Theme (couldn't find anything on line about it).

The supplements are the introduction by Colin Maccabe (he should have been asked to provide a commentary, which is sorely lacking), a feature about the paparazzi (who must have been a real pain for Godard), and a making of documentary. Unfortunately, the two featurettes are not subtitled (the French seem to resent making their discs English friendly!).

Overall, a very nice disc. The thought always crosses my mind when watching colour films of this era, how much better they would be on a large negative format.
 

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Received Le Mépris 4k today and watched it straightaway (had to break half way to pick up my son from school!). The image is very good (although there are some slight fluctuations) and colour excellent (vegetation, red Alfa). The exterior scenes are nicely vibrant contrasting with the studio interiors. There are two English subtitle tracks (3 & 5), set it to 3 (not quite sure of the difference). It's a bit disconcerting when there is speech without titles but this is mainly while Francesca is translating for Prokosch. I think the score accompanying the recent trailer is a new (lovely) arrangement of Camille's Theme (couldn't find anything on line about it).

The supplements are the introduction by Colin Maccabe (he should have been asked to provide a commentary, which is sorely lacking), a feature about the paparazzi (who must have been a real pain for Godard), and a making of documentary. Unfortunately, the two featurettes are not subtitled (the French seem to resent making their discs English friendly!).

Overall, a very nice disc. The thought always crosses my mind when watching colour films of this era, how much better they would be on a large negative format.
But how did it make you feel ?
 

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Just purchased it at Amazon UK for a total of $32 including shipping. Was shocked to see that shipping was only $3.36 instead of the usual $12 that i noticed in the last few years.
 

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Film Forum showed a restored print a number of years ago. How much better can a film look?
 

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Just ordered from fnac, despatching June 14. Not yet cleared on the three relevant amazon sites. Fnac is expensive for express international but frankly worth it. When this is one of your ten greatest films of all time. Listening again the music for this trailer has big brass and double bass scoring and certainly ain’t remotely like Delerue. Does anyone know who wrote it?

One of the most moving moments (one of many) in this film, is watching Fritz Lang direct the film within the film. It's an act of love by Godard. It captures this titan of cinema on set forever. I get similar goosebumps and wet eyes from how Wilder does that with Erich von Stroheim at the end of Sunset Blvd.
 

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Personally, this is my least favorite Godard. The whole thing is basically Godard's attempt to rationalize and justify his terrible treatment of Anna Karina, pushing the blame for his own behavior onto the victim.
I totally agree. Out of his 1960's productions this is easily my least favorite. I love Godard but never enjoyed this film.
 

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I totally agree. Out of his 1960's productions this is easily my least favorite. I love Godard but never enjoyed this film.
To each their own, as they say. Many people consider Le Mepris not only Godard's greatest, but one of the most sublime landmarks of 1960's cinema. I tend to agree, though back when I was young and saw Contempt in a harsh yellow print at the Thalia, I didn't like it at all. (It was on a double bill with Repulsion, which probably didn't help.) Then, a few years later, a friend dragged me to the Elgin which had an original Italian Technicolor print--very similar to the restoration on this new 4K--and I began to love the film, though it still didn't make a lot of sense. Le Mepris is a film that grows on you, that improves with age. Though Godard was in his early 30's when he directed it, it's an old man's film, elegaic, meditating on eternity and the silence of the primordial world, which is in opposition to the contemporary sensibilities of most of the characters, and alters their lives without their awareness of it. Call it fate or or augury, if you like, but that tragic sensibility is alive in every image of the Mediterranean, the sun shimmering on the waves, the same vista as seen by Ulysses or Homer. Looking at the film today, it seems utterly perfect, overwhelmingly emotional and devastating as well as visually stunning. The film asks, what is intimacy? Can it exist in a world of continual change? Those questions haven't gone away. In fact, they're deeper and more urgent than before. The formal strategies and parallel dialogue and doubling characters than once seemed confusing and cold to me are now so full of meaning and life.
 

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Saw this for the first time, on the initial blu-ray nearly 15 years ago and didn't warm to it. However, as is the case for me seeing remastered classics in gorgeous, restored 4K UHD versions, I now find it mesmerising. I was just going to sample the disc, but ended up watching the whole film.

So glad 4K UHD didn't peter out after Smurfs 2.
 

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