Center speaker - above or below television?

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Marshall Sander, Apr 25, 2002.

  1. Marshall Sander

    Marshall Sander Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2002
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    0
    I am building a wood cabinet to hold my television and will build a shelf to hold my center speaker. Should the shelf be above or below the 36" tv?
     
  2. Bob Sheen

    Bob Sheen Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2002
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    0
    Mine is above but angled downwards towards the listening area.

    Bob
     
  3. Ned

    Ned Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2000
    Messages:
    838
    Likes Received:
    0
    Placing below usually puts the tweeter at a pretty low position and even if you angle it upwards it still tends to sound boxy. Above angled down works well usually.
     
  4. TylerZ

    TylerZ Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2001
    Messages:
    214
    Likes Received:
    0
    Got mine above the A/V cabinet angled down toward the listening area. Had the wife increase the angle until in sounded the best and put a couple of those rubber door wedges/stoppers so it wouldn't move. They are cheap and works great.
     
  5. Jeff Pryor

    Jeff Pryor Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2002
    Messages:
    653
    Likes Received:
    1
    Mine's on top of the TV. Sounds better than it did when I had it below.
     
  6. Chris PC

    Chris PC Producer

    Joined:
    May 12, 2001
    Messages:
    3,975
    Likes Received:
    1
    Large screen TV or Screen, is it still better to put the center speaker above? With screens, its kinda hard if not akward or impossible to mount the center above the screen.

    How many people put their center speakers above the screen and how big is your screen?
     
  7. James Zos

    James Zos Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2002
    Messages:
    725
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'd have to disagree. Even though I have my center on top of my TV right now (girlfriend won't let me put it below for the time being) I tried it below and I noticed a much greater sense of clarity to the sound. There was a thread from someone else who came to the same conclusion just a few days ago.
     
  8. Chris Tsutsui

    Chris Tsutsui Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2002
    Messages:
    1,865
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'd do a blind test and have somebody hole the center above and below the screen, and hear what's the difference like.

    I liked above TV. It's a 42" flat LCD that's about eye level sitting down.

    I heard a paradigm CC + studio100s with a center channel below a screen. I didn't like where the vocals were coming from.

    Also the closer it is to the ground, the more likely the floor reflections can affect the sound.
     
  9. Brian AM

    Brian AM Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2002
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Those of you who have your speaker below your TV, what center speaker stand do you use? I can't find anything below $70 or so. Looking for something around 12".
     
  10. Chuck Kent

    Chuck Kent Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    May 29, 1999
    Messages:
    983
    Likes Received:
    0
    In addition to the other thoughts, it's also worth keeping in mind that for the best blend with your left and right mains (for more seemless sound pans), try to keep the all of the tweeters as close to the same level as possible. Nothing can sound stranger than the sound starting on one side or the other and jumping up or down as it passes thru the center...
     
  11. Kimmo Jaskari

    Kimmo Jaskari Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2000
    Messages:
    1,528
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have mine below (but the TV is on a fairly high stand with a purpose-built shelf underneath it) and it sounds at least as good as above - and it looks much nicer to have it under the TV.

    I used to have it perched on top of my 32inch direct view TV and it is a BIG center... looked pretty awful, to be frank.
     
  12. Cees Alons

    Cees Alons Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 1997
    Messages:
    19,345
    Likes Received:
    291
    Real Name:
    Cees Alons
    As long as I used my TV, I always had the centre speaker on top (which was vertically closest to the level of our heads anyway).
    Ever since I have a screen (100"), I have it below (or else the sound would come fro the sky, so to speak [​IMG] ).
    Note that it isn't that critical, because the sound will rather likely be projected to the proper spot on the screen (i.e. the mouth of the apparent speaker). But I would suggest the above rule: above or below so it will be closest as possible to the height of your head.
    And point it so, that it slightly overcompensates a possible error (i.e.: if it's below the screen, point it slightly above your ears, if above, slightly below). Use the empirical method [​IMG].
    Cees
     
  13. Ralph Bru

    Ralph Bru Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2002
    Messages:
    116
    Likes Received:
    0
    it all comes down to what you prefer. I like mine below as I like the front speakers seperated from it than being close together. its all in what you like. do a test like some mentioned. the majority says above but I dont get why. I didnt like it there and like it below.
     
  14. Kerry Hackney

    Kerry Hackney Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2000
    Messages:
    206
    Likes Received:
    0
    I built my cabinet with the center below a 36" TV. I think it comes down to looks. If I put it on top of the TV it would be just as far from the centerline of the main tweeters as it is on the bottom. I have had the center on top in the past and have not noticed any sound quality issues that make me want to put it back up again. One other thing, if you are going to put it in a shelf build it so that you can stuff the void around the speaker with foam to eliminate the cavity effect. Otherwise, top or bottom it won't sound as good.
     
  15. Rich Malloy

    Rich Malloy Producer

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2000
    Messages:
    3,998
    Likes Received:
    0
    I moved my center channel from on top of the TV, angled-down, to a stand in front of the TV, angled-up, about 2 months ago.

    Huge improvement for my setup. Voices are clearer and appear to be coming from the appropriate place. I'm not getting the resonances from the TV cabinet. In all ways, it was a significant improvement.

    I'm using a Wood Technology stand. They come in 12", 18", and 22" varieties and are already angled up. I thought I'd have to increase the angle a bit, but it's actually aimed perfectly, as-is. I'd prefer a stand with more mass, but I got this one for about $50-60, and wasn't sure if I'd like the placement. I do most definitely like the placement, but I may well upgrade to a heavier stand in the future.
     

Share This Page