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The $40 Criterion doesn't earn Criterion $40. That's not the actual cost to the retailer per unit they sell. Bottle Rocket CRIT is going for $28 on Amazon. There's royalty payments and production costs and distribution fees. They have to pay for that new transfer. They still have to move a certain number of copies to make up the expenses of this new launch. The profits dry up quick. Sony's version is selling for $6. Sony will get their $2 profit from each so making this deal won't hurt them.

The question is how many copies can they sell of Limited to make it worth Fox to lose complete control over their original release. Sure there is an X number of diehards who are eager to buy it. But what makes it interesting is that Fox did lose a large chunk of change on the film. If Fox thought there truly was a market for a "Criterion"-like Limited release, they could easily do it themselves - put out a Blu-ray with all the charming bonus features for a 2 disc set. But odds are that Wes won't be cooperative because he only wants his deluxe stuff out on Criterion so he can take up a couple more numbers on the spine.

It is a shame that the DVD business isn't like the CD business so we could know how many silver discs move when a company decides to let Criterion put out a version versus when they create their own 2 disc edition. Although the key to letting Criterion handle the release is to stick them with the bills for the upgrades while making sure that your profit share isn't touched.
 

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That was obviously an over-simplified version I used as an example but the point is the same: Fox would make money on a Fox DVD and Fox would make additional money on a Criterion DVD.
 

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The additional money isn't bad when you're talking about a film that made a nice chunk of change in the theater. But Fox was burned putting that movie out. it didn't even come close to earning half of its P&A budget - let alone it's production budget. This isn't even like the Office Space moving tons of copies for Fox after stiffing in the theater.

There's no additional money when you're talking a film that probably ended up in the red to about $20 million for Fox during the theatrical run. Especially since they thought this was going to be their Oscar bait.

Criterion is nice when you're talking gravy, but they still need their meat money.
 

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Nope, I have the DVD and the Columbia logo is present, as is "Under exclusive license from Sony Pictures Home Entertainment (C) Columbia Pictures Industries Inc."

This is a widespread corporate change that had little (if anything) to do with "Bottle Rocket" and Criterion. They simply took advantage of the ability to finally license the film after all these years. Again, for every company like Criterion that was dying to get to something like "Bottle Rocket" there was another company like Time Life dying to do "The Real Ghostbusters".
 

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did find information about units moved from Criterion.

according to an article from 2005, the best selling Criterion set is Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas at 300K. Royal Tennenbaums was listed as selling around 150K. Seeing how that film was only released as a Criterion edition, the idea of putting out Limited after a few years makes it more of an act of charity rather than a way to tap into a fresh revenue source.
 

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If it was a charity the Criterion "Fear and Loathing" wouldn't cost twice as much as the bare-bones Universal release.

There's obviously money to be made there. Would Criterion even exist if that wasn't the case?
 

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Criterion does present itself as a charity when it comes collecting bonus feature material. They don't even want to pay postage. The good part is that they will allow a filmmaker to provide them with all the stuff that they want included as a bonus feature. That's something that appeals since certain studios were notorious for refusing to let directors include stuff on the discs (and even if the director paid to record the commentary track). But they won't pay for the extra stuff.

Criterion makes their money, but they survive off the generosity of studios and directors. They aren't cutting big checks to land a lure from Paramount. Especially if they only move 150K DVDs of a film that made $50 million.

Judging from all the cutbacks in the entertainment industry, who knows how long any DVD company will be existing.
 

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