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I watched the first episode of the new series tonight. Has much the same tone and many of the same cast from the previous series, so it all feels comfortable and familiar. And most enjoyable. The season premiere set up at least three running stories, so there will be lots to follow. So happy to have it again.
 

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I watched the first episode of the new series tonight. Has much the same tone and many of the same cast from the previous series, so it all feels comfortable and familiar. And most enjoyable. The season premiere set up at least three running stories, so there will be lots to follow. So happy to have it again.
I just watched the first two episodes. The commercial interruptions aren't as obtrusive as I feared, but I hate how the massive "freevee" logo is on screen in the bottom-right corner for the entire episode.

Not only is a lot of the cast the same, but the showrunner (Eric Overmyer) is the same too. The two main differences from "Bosch" that have stood out to me are:
  1. The show is edited for ad breaks. It's a subtle difference, but it affects the structure and makes it feel slightly more like a network series than the original show did.
  2. It's a three-way narrative, rotating between Harry Bosch, Money Chandler, and Maddie Bosch. They're lives obviously overlap, but so far their storylines haven't had a whole lot to do with one another. Presumably that will change as the season goes on, but I am curious how this structure will work over the longer term. Harry is a PI and Chandler is working for a much smaller firm that doesn't have its own in-house investigator, so that creates storytelling opportunities. But Maddie is a beat cop, not an investigator, so it seems like it will be harder to tie her into the same narratives.
Bosch's house being unsteady on its foundation after an earthquake is a nice metaphor for Bosch outside of the police department. I do like how his life as a PI brings in a different cast of supporting characters, including his tech guy who is the only series regular besides the core trio. I particularly enjoyed the struggling actress who was very adept at extracting information. And I find his coloring outside the lines easier to tolerate when he's a PI than I did when he was working for the LAPD.

I think they're striking the right balance with Chandler. She is clearly still severely traumatized, with therapy and anxiety medication helping her to cope but not really enough. At same time, she's still a really stellar defense attorney and she's fighting as hard for her pro bono client as she used to for the millionaires who used to hire her.

I'm also enjoying Maddie as a trainee out of her father's old station. She's still smart and perceptive, but she's really green and the show is allowing her to make really green mistakes. Her current training officer is probably just who she needs in that role; someone who's tough but someone who wants Maddie to succeed and understands that not every mistake needs a formal disciplinary process.

At the same time, she's in peak physical condition and a bit saltier than the Maddie we watched go through her teen years and college years, with the f-bombs coming a lot more frequently.

It's interesting to see characters from "Bosch" return in different contexts; On "Bosch", Lt. Thorne was primarily Billets's adversary. Here, he's basically Maddie's boss. His job hasn't changed, but the parts of it we see have.

For some reason, I thought William Devane had passed away. So it was a nice surprise to see him appear here kicking off one of the season's main story threads.
 

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We watched the first four episodes yesterday. We only planned to watch two, then watch the next two on Thursday to prime us for episode 5 on Friday. But after two episodes we were too darn hungry for more and we binged all four. Yes, gluttony is a sin but we couldn't help ourselves. :)

Yummy, yummy! Tastes just like the original Bosch. We enjoyed the appetizer, we are very much looking forward to the main course and dessert!

Mark
 

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Watched the third and fourth episodes today, which amped up the various storylines.

Both episodes used subtitles to highlight key pieces of information that were onscreen but perhaps not so easily read. I don't remember the original series doing that on Prime Video?

It was fun to see Crate & Barrel back; the funny thing is that they saw more action in their one episode (so far) working for Bosch in the private sector than in seven scenes of (mostly) riding the desk on the original show.

Maddie's discomfort with the callousness of some of the other boots as they all traded war stories was one of those moments where you can feel the impact that being raised by Harry has had. She can't help but believe that either everyone matters, or no one matters.

The subplot with Chandler and the bad arrest due to shoddy facial recognition was closer to the reality of civil litigation. Yes, her firm wanted the defendant as a test case to open up a whole new arena of litigation against the police. Yes, she probably could have gotten him a much bigger payout if they'd gone to trial. But the plantiff had made her client an offer, she was obligated to present that offer to her client, and her client had every right to accept the offer. Sometimes $1.2 million in the hand (or probably around $800k after the firm takes its cut) is worth more than tens of millions a couple years down the road.
 

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I have a funny feeling that the facial recognition defendant will be back in the story in later episodes.

Mark
 

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Agree yay Bosch is back! But ugh, the freevee logo bug, the act break structure, and SDR with crushed blacks instead of HDR like when it was on Amazon proper is a big technical turn for the worse.
 

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Smart of them to wait until week two to load the episodes up with lots of commercials, once they know they have audiences hooked.

Titus Welliver was phenomenal in the scene where (1x06 spoiler) Harry heard on the radio that a rookie female cop was shot and seriously wounded during a routine traffic stop, and he instantly thought it was Maddie.

Nice to see (1x06 spoiler) Jamie Hector make an appearance as J. Edgar. And smart of Bosch to protect the original copy of the new will by getting it entered into evidence.
 

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The opening flashback of 1x08 went about as far as this show can go given the constraints of its licensed IP:
It confirmed that Bosch's biological father was a prominent Los Angeles lawyer, and that he has a younger, vaguely Hispanic half-brother. Reminded me a bit of Carla Gugino playing "Karen Goodall" on "Justified". Bosch's father was a different actor than Mickey's father in the flashbacks during Season 1 of "The Lincoln Lawyer" however, further puncturing the idea that the two shows exist in a shared universe. Perhaps it's the Matthew McConaughey version of the character that exists in the "Bosch" universe? :)

It looks like Money Chandler's wrongful death suit against the LAPD will tie Maddie's story in more closely with the other story threads. On one hand, it's pretty clear that it was a questionable shooting at best; the driver had shot a cop, and SIS was going to put him in the ground and they weren't going to worry too much about how they got it done. On the other hand, I don't see a jury even for a civil trial finding against the LAPD given that the deceased passenger had a romantic and sexual history with an attempted cop killer, and they found the gun used to shoot the cop in the vehicle. The circumstances were murky enough that I would bet most juries would give the cops the benefit of the doubt.

It puts Maddie in a really difficult spot, too; she has a great deal of personal feeling toward Chandler, who has been one of her mentors. And she has her own doubts about the shooting and how it went down. But she's right at the beginning of her career, and if she crosses the blue wall of silence now, her career will be over before it begins. Even if they don't find an excuse to wash her out, she'll never be able to trust that her fellow officers have her back in a dangerous situation. Her best hope is that the detective who made a promise to the mother of Chandler's client speaks out.

Speaking of that detective: It looked like he was working out of Hollywood Division, seated roughly where Vega and Pierce used to sit. I thought Hollywood Homicide got shut down in the "Bosch" series finale? Perhaps the detective is in gangs rather than homicide?

We're assuming that Sloan is bad news, yes? I suppose he could be playing double agent on Vance's behalf, but he deleted Bosch's voicemail before Vance could listen to it, and the incoming CEO of Advance Engineering is keeping Sloan on the payroll even as he's laying off the rest of Vance's household staff.

The shoddy investigation of the murdered doctor is really galling to Bosch, and probably makes him feel the absence of his badge more than anything else thus far. He knows with absolute certainty that he would have done a far better job than the officer assigned to the case.
 

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Odd about the ads. I've been watching the show via the Firestick going into the FreeVee app, and the commercials have been about what I was expecting. Yesterday, though, I watched Ep. 8 through the Prime app on the OS for the LG TV, and apart from one ad for FreeVee at the beginning, there were no commercials. There were commercial breaks, but no commercials had been inserted into those spots. Weird but very nice!
 

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Odd about the ads. I've been watching the show via the Firestick going into the FreeVee app, and the commercials have been about what I was expecting. Yesterday, though, I watched Ep. 8 through the Prime app on the OS for the LG TV, and apart from one ad for FreeVee at the beginning, there were no commercials. There were commercial breaks, but no commercials had been inserted into those spots. Weird but very nice!
It's been very inconsistent for me. The first four episodes, only one brief ad break in each episode. The second week, with episodes 5 and 6, had at least as many ads as a broadcast show, with multiple 2 minute+ ad breaks per episode. This past Friday, with episodes 6 and 7, back to one brief ad break per episode.
 

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Good finale, with a few twists and turns I didn't see coming along with several I did. I'm glad this was already renewed for a second season, because the season finale ends on a brutal cliffhanger.

I'll probably chime in with more in a few days once everybody's had a chance to finish the season.
 

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Good finale, with a few twists and turns I didn't see coming along with several I did. I'm glad this was already renewed for a second season, because the season finale ends on a brutal cliffhanger.
I hate that they did that! I haven't watched it yet, but I despise cliffhangers in TV shows. Did they honestly think Bosch fans wouldn't come back to season two without doing that? Lame!
 

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I finally finished the season. Yes, the cliffhanger irritated me just as much as I expected it would. I loved the two stalking sequences with Bosch and the assassin in the final episode. I think season 6 ended on the same kind of life and death stalking of Bosch, so it's become expected in the show. These didn't disappoint. Overall, very happy about the season. Looking forward to more.
 

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My favorite moment of the season was when Maddie and her partner responded to a call and found the Hispanic gangbanger dying on the floor, riddled with bullets. Maddie stays with him the whole way through and gives him what comfort she can as he passes away. Her training officer realizes in that moment is she isn't just an entitled rich white girl who says all of the right idealistic things; like her father, Maddie really does believe that "everybody counts or nobody counts." Whatever life this guy lived leading up to that moment, he is a human being.
 

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