Are movie geeks (us) just too fussy these days?

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  1. Darren Pillans

    Darren Pillans Second Unit

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    I wonder...

    I'm an old bastard now (33), and I must admit a little jaded.

    Films can still entertain me (Kill Bill sure did), but I always find that movies don't thoroughly excite me or fulfil my expectations like they used to.

    So many complain about virtually every movie that comes out these days. Saying "The Prequels suck and Episode 3 will suck!", "Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions suck!", "The Hulk sucks!" and concluding with "It's no Empire Strikes Back!"

    If the original Star Wars trilogy came out today I bet it would be trashed liked everything else. They're far from perfect films.

    That's what we're all expecting, a "perfect" movie, but does such a thing exist?

    Are we just spoiled now and do we expect the impossible?

    I wonder.
     
  2. Dan Rudolph

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    I think movie geeks have always been little whiners. 25 years from now they'll be complaing movies aren't like the current crop.
     
  3. Paul_Sjordal

    Paul_Sjordal Supporting Actor

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    I agree with Dan. Film buffs and critics have always been that way.

    I remember the comments 30+ year olds were making about the Star Wars movies when they came out.

    When I was a teenager, I remember most films I liked were panned and ridiculed by film critics and snobby film buffs.

    And you know what? The original Star Wars trilogy doesn't hold me in anywhere near the same kind of awe it did when I was younger. Nowadays I enjoy them mostly for their nostalgic value. Obviously this fussiness is either catching or an inevitability of the aging process. [​IMG]
     
  4. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

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  5. JosefM

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    The only problem I feel exists with many movies is that there isn't much substance in them. So many movies have no plot, bad acting and rely way too much on CGI to get them through. That said, action movies are by nature meant to entertain and not necessarily be good movies. It would be nice to have more movies with quality in them, though. Maybe I'm getting to the point where I expect too much.
     
  6. SteveGon

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    What Michael said. [​IMG]
     
  7. Kevin Grey

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    I do think that we are too picky these days- particularly with regard to fantasy and sci-fi films. I truly don't think we understand how good we have it.

    How many serious sci-fi/fantasy films were made in the eighties and early to mid-nineties? Now we get to to a stage where the studios are entrusting the properties to people who seem to care about the source material and take the movies seriously and are giving them budgets to realize them. We've even got Christopher Nolan making Batman for christ sakes! The past few years have produced The Matrix, Blade 1&2, X-Men, Spiderman, Harry Potter, LOTR trilogy, X2, Hulk, Hellboy, Daredevil, Equilibrium, AI, and Minority Report. Some obviously more successful than others yet from what people say about some of them you'd think I just listed a string of Adam Sandler movies.

    I'm a bit worried that after the perceived failure of some of these that the studios are going to start lowering budgets and giving them back to people like Joel Schumacher or Michael Bay in an effort to better please the masses.
     
  8. Nick Graham

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    We have become a mass of whiney, intolerable middle schoolers, where almost everything is despised with endless hyperbole and only a few films are deemed truly good. That goes for the DVD community as well, not just the film geeks. And it's getting worse.

    My visits to this site and quite frankly every other film and DVD related discussion site on the net have decreased in number, and they will likely continue to.

    It's a disease that's spreading faster and faster.
     
  9. Jack Briggs

    Jack Briggs Executive Producer

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    Well, that's your choice. But, otherwise, "what Michael said." There's some genuinely good material out there, but it's overshadowed by all the hyperbole directed at the loud, sensation-driven movies.
     
  10. RobertR

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  11. Matthew_Millheiser

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    To butcher Wooderson:

    You get older.
    Movies stay the same age.

    I'm 32. Fifteen years ago you couldn't get me more than ten minutes past, say, an Ozu film, while I'd droolingly slobber in anticipation of the latest "Nightmare on Elm Street" crapfest. Nowadays I'm mesmerized by Ozu's simple, unadorned brilliance, and wonder why on Earth I was ever first in line to see "Police Academy 4."
     
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  13. Edwin-S

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    Movies have upped the level of "realism" being depicted. Film fan expectations for "realistic" depiction of events has been increased as a result. When the "realism" doesn't measure up, the fans of film get upset.

    Look at the thread for MASTER AND COMMANDER. Someone is basically complaining that the movie is flawed, because the cannon, apparently, do not recoil properly.
     
  14. ChrisBEA

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    I complain now and then but I love all types of film, realism doesn't bother me.
    I have been to 74 movies this year ranging from Darkness Falls to Spirited Away to Lost in La Mancha to The Matrix(both of them), to Swimming Pool To Hulk, the list goes on.
    I think my point is that I enjoy all types of films and even bad ones I try to find some good in(although Cold Creek Manor was a lost cause).
    I don't think I'm fussy, but I keep my mind open to all types of film experiences.
    This doesn't even take into consideration my DVD collection, check out the link in my sig....
     
  15. Darren Pillans

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    Michael,

    I think my post gave the wrong impression.

    The films I mentioned fit into a particular category for me (films the child in me could enjoy) and they're far from all I'm interested in.

    In fact, my favorite films this year have been American Splendor and Punchdrunk Love.

    Maybe that's what I'm going through, I'm moving on.
     
  16. Dome Vongvises

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    Oh bitch bitch bitch.

    [​IMG]

    Gotta love Grandpa.
     
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  18. ChrisBEA

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    I gotta say, that while a lot of good films are overshadowed, I love it when I find one of these hidden gems. It's like being in on a secret, when I talk to friends about checking out movies and often I recommend titles they aren't familiar with, then they go and see it and come back thanking me for it. It happened all the time when I worked at a video store, I had so many repeat customers who came specifically for my recommendations. It was a great feeling. Anyway, I'm willing to give any movie a shot, but I won't necessarily pay for anything.

    Speaking of fussy, do you ever find yourself attracted to a movie that you know is going to be a disaster, but something about it gurantees that you will have a prime seat for it? I ask this cuz there is a movie opening next month that I know will be bad, really bad, but there is an actress in it that I like so much I am being drawn into the black hole of its apparent suckitude. I'm not alone am I?
     
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  20. Glenn Overholt

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    But Earthquake was so cool!

    Ok, maybe I like earthquakes, and any movie that has an earthquake in it I will automatically love, and overlook any flaws in it.

    Any good movie can be totally ruined it something happens in it that you know cannot happen. If you are an expert hacker, and watch any movie involving hacking, it will crack you up because you know that they 'fudged' a bit to make the story work.

    It goes back to that 'leave your brains at the door' saying. It is a movie, so overlook technical flaws and just enjoy it, or you'll die a bitter person.

    Glenn
     

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