He's lucky to have any!Originally Posted by Michael Reuben /forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627721
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He's lucky to have any!Originally Posted by Michael Reuben /forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627721
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I bought Zulu and The Longest Day based on several positive reviews, then only once I had them, did I discover the one or two negative reviews, which then explained why the discs were playing so odd. Zulu I think the DNR is mainly visible in the movement, which judders badly, and in blocks of colour, like the red jackets, which are waxed homogenous. However, its nowhere near as bad as The Longest Day, which is, as has been said countless times before, a wax museum. From the caps and others descriptions here, IWAL sounds like its in that ballpark too.Originally Posted by Steve Christou /forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627716
Michael, as you know I just got into blu-ray recently and I asked a friend to recommend some blu-ray films, Patton was one of them, "you won't believe how clear it looks" he told me. He also recommended The Longest Day and Zulu.
Mike, Cees has a bigger tv he'll notice more flaws. /img/vbsmilies/htf/smiley_wink.gif
Come on now.... really? Really? No difference?Originally Posted by Robert Harris /forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627706
And there is no difference between water leaks in a home, failed brakes, or an amateurishly produced Blu-ray disc coming from an entity that most would presume to still be one of the great studios.
It's only "hyperbole" if one fails to adjust both sides of the equation.Originally Posted by Brandon Conway /forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627743
Come on now.... really? Really?
Failed breaks can potentially KILL ME. Some faults on a Blu-ray disc may.... potentially disappoint my 2-hour entertainment.
Yeah, they're exactly the same.
The hyperbole on this forum astounds me sometimes.
Originally Posted by Ben Cheshire /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I bought Zulu and The Longest Day based on several positive reviews, then only once I had them, did I discover the one or two negative reviews, which then explained why the discs were playing so odd. Zulu I think the DNR is mainly visible in the movement, which judders badly, and in blocks of colour, like the red jackets, which are waxed homogenous. However, its nowhere near as bad as The Longest Day, which is, as has been said countless times before, a wax museum. From the caps and others descriptions here, IWAL sounds like its in that ballpark too.
Anyway, both discs are in my pile to sell.
I've been hearing that for years. It is and always has been crap. The studios' treatment of the forum communities is driven by how useful they do or don't find them, at any given time, in developing a particular market. But I digress.Originally Posted by Brandon Conway /forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627748
There's a reason that the studios are treating the forum communities more and more like a nagging, spoiled child.
I look forward to your future contributions on that score.Brandon Conway said:/forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627748
So pardon me for wanting the conversation to stay within the realm of measured, and realistic, conversation and analogies.
Originally Posted by Brandon Conway /img/forum/go_quote.gif
This is not to say the studios shouldn't do better - they should always seek to do better, and root out the causes of imperfect product. But I have my suspicions that a private report from Mr. Harris to Paramount will go a longer way to solving this problem than any of the messages on this forum. This thread is merely for the consumer to be aware of this imperfection, and no amount of shouting herein will make a lick of difference (outside of individual purchasing decisions). So pardon me for wanting the conversation to stay within the realm of measured, and realistic, conversation and analogies.
Ultimately, taking in the whole spectrum of life, yes. How could they not be? I may love Blu-ray (and more so the movies they provide in such generally high quality), but at the end of the day I could part with all of them if needed to. Luxuries and conveniences are ultimately exactly that.Originally Posted by Cees Alons
But are you seriously arguing that errors on a BD are less so because the results of those errors are nothing life-threatening or even dangerous?
In fact, I know you don't: because you love Blu-ray so much. /img/vbsmilies/htf/smile.gif
On the contrary - I assume Mr. Harris did so before he even made this thread. He has the ears of many in the industry, and I'm glad he speaks into them.Originally Posted by Michael Reuben /forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627754
Are you assuming there hasn't been one? I wouldn't.
Originally Posted by Robert Harris /forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627754
Paramount has no one in place of whom I'm aware that would be in the least interested. If such a person is in place, they might make their existence and interest known. My perception is that even with some quality technical people in place, they are probably facing an uphill battle to be enabled to create quality product.
Oh, basically I agree. To take it one step further: there will be a day at the end of which nothing in this life will bear any emotional importance to me.Originally Posted by Brandon Conway /forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627763
Ultimately, taking in the whole spectrum of life, yes. How could they not be? I may love Blu-ray (and more so the movies they provide in such generally high quality), but at the end of the day I could part with all of them if needed to. Luxuries and conveniences are ultimately exactly that.
Certainly casts a different light on the situation, don't you think?Originally Posted by Brandon Conway /forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627763
EDIT: On the other hand, it seems as though Mr. Harris would love to, but that avenue is yet undiscovered. Very discouraging to read that. /img/vbsmilies/htf/frown.gif And if Paramount doesn't even have someone in place to listen to the Robert Harris's of the world - man oh man....
More like the light was turned off. If they don't have anyone to listen to him directly, I doubt a forum can shame them into making the needed adjustments. I hope they prove me wrong.Originally Posted by Michael Reuben /forum/thread/294790/a-few-words-about-it-s-a-wonderful-life-in-blu-ray/90#post_3627777
Certainly casts a different light on the situation, don't you think?
Originally Posted by Brian Husar /img/forum/go_quote.gif
People like Ned Price and Crisp (I think thats his name) at Columbia listen to Harris, and you could see the quality they have been putting out
If studios didn't turn crap out and try to charge premium prices for it then they wouldn't have people complaining on forums like this one. If they want to charge me 30 dollars for a single movie then the video and audio quality had better be the very best it can be for the given technology. The studios have only themselves to blame if they think forum communities are nagging, spoiled children. People who frequent specialty forums like this one take their hobby seriously and they are going to let studios know their displeasure when they try to sell trash at a premium price.Originally Posted by Brandon Conway /img/forum/go_quote.gif
There's a reason that the studios are treating the forum communities more and more like a nagging, spoiled child.