1. Sign-up to become a member, and most of the ads you see will disappear. It only takes 30 seconds to sign up, so join the discussion today!
    Dismiss Notice

UHD Review A few words about...™ American Psycho -- in 4k UHD Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Robert Harris, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. Message #1 of 25 Sep 24, 2018
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 28, 2018
    Robert Harris

    Robert Harris Archivist
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 1999
    Messages:
    12,628
    Likes Received:
    15,690
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Robert Harris
    Mary Harron's American Psycho is a wonderful, and interesting tribute to what is percevied as the male psyche, hormonal or otherwise.

    The great Mr. Ebert hit the nail on the head with his 2000 review:

    "It's just as well a woman directed "American Psycho." She's transformed a novel about blood lust into a movie about men's vanity. A male director might have thought Patrick Bateman, the hero of "American Psycho," was a serial killer because of psychological twists, but Mary Harron sees him as a guy who's prey to the usual male drives and compulsions. He just acts out a little more."

    After appearing in Empire of the Sun, thirteen years previous, Christian Bale is back as a consenting adult hitting the bar scene, in the form of Patrick Bateman.

    His talents are obvious here, and it's a pity that he was hardly seen thereafter.

    I noted in my words on Halloween, that Lionsgate is making full use of their catalog library, and stepping up with funds to create new 4k image harvests, and American Psycho is yet another recipient of that thoughtful studio parentage.

    Image - 5 (HDR10 / Dolby Vision)

    Audio - 5 (Dolby Atmos)

    Pass / Fail - Pass

    Recommended

    RAH

     
    David Wilkins likes this.
  2. English Invader

    English Invader Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2018
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    66
    Trophy Points:
    10
    Real Name:
    Simon
    It would have been political suicide to not have a female director for this film.

    The violence in the film is also greatly toned down from the original book.
     
  3. bujaki

    bujaki Producer

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,198
    Likes Received:
    3,576
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    Richardson, TX
    Real Name:
    Jose Ortiz-Marrero
    I remember it as a cutting satire (see Robocop).
     
    B-ROLL likes this.
  4. lark144

    lark144 Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2012
    Messages:
    892
    Likes Received:
    1,004
    Trophy Points:
    610
    Real Name:
    mark gross
    The book was also a satire, or at least, supposed to be a satire; except almost no one got it. The long dispassionately written lists of consumer items in the book, and the long, dispassionately written descriptions of murder, are supposed to be of a piece. The only real problem was the author, though talented, had difficulty pulling it off and while he was attempting a pure ironic prose on the order of Jonathan Swift"s "A Modest Proposal" he was not really able to achieve this, at least in the opinion of this reader. Also, it's a bit easier when dealing with images to create through editing and composition a kind of ironic image process by staging things in such a way that all the images are in "quotes." Many of Altman's films are able to create a kind of ironic detachment through use of performances and also editing and camera style that don't match an audiences expectations of the genre, as in MCCABE AND MRS MILLER. ROBOCOP is different in that everything is pushed to an extreme, which is a stylistic tendency in Paul Verhoeven's films in general, which is why many of his films, such as BLACK BOOK, are misunderstood, because the films seem to start off more or less traditionally, and then appear to go off the tracks into extreme melodrama and violence, whereas in fact, the excess in Verhoeven's films are not mistakes, but the basic movement of where things are supposed to be going. ROBOCOP is more successful in that the excessive, almost parodist style and the subject matter seem better matched.
     
  5. titch

    titch Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2012
    Messages:
    678
    Likes Received:
    695
    Trophy Points:
    610
    Real Name:
    Kevin Oppegaard
    Devastatingly funny for warped minds - the scenes where Patrick Bateman argues the merits of Huey Lewis, Phil Collins and Whitney Houston are classic. It's fantastic that films that received such terrible releases on blu ray initially - slathered in DNR and with lacklustre sound - are now getting the best possible transfers in 4K!
     
    JoeDoakes likes this.
  6. Ray H

    Ray H Producer

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2002
    Messages:
    3,545
    Likes Received:
    74
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    NJ
    Real Name:
    Ray
    Good to hear. Was a little worried when Lionsgate started announcing deeper catalog titles on UHD, especially since they never seemed to really bothered with proper remasters for Blu-ray.
     
  7. Michel_Hafner

    Michel_Hafner Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    1,267
    Likes Received:
    299
    Trophy Points:
    1,610
    Hardly seen thereafter... Must be in jail or dead.
     
  8. ghostwind

    ghostwind Stunt Coordinator
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2018
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    95
    Trophy Points:
    11
    Location:
    Boston, MA
    Real Name:
    Bogdan Urma
    Is the included 1080p Blu-ray from the new master or is it the old one?
     
  9. Jeff Cooper

    Jeff Cooper Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2000
    Messages:
    2,214
    Likes Received:
    566
    Trophy Points:
    1,610
    Hey Paul!

    Aaaaaaaaaa!!

    Try getting a reservation at Darcia NOW!!!!
     
  10. David Wilkins

    David Wilkins Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2001
    Messages:
    908
    Likes Received:
    74
    Trophy Points:
    610
    I'm hearing from a pretty reliable viewer at Blu-ray.com, that the Blu-ray disc is not at all spectacular, sourced from an older master. So those without a 4K set-up might want to investigate further before jumping in. But he does reflect Mr. Harris's satisfaction with the UHD.
     
  11. Keith Cobby

    Keith Cobby Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2013
    Messages:
    2,584
    Likes Received:
    1,608
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    Kent "The Garden of England", UK
    Real Name:
    Keith Cobby
    Why would the blu ray not use the same source as the 4k?
     
  12. Colin Jacobson

    Colin Jacobson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2000
    Messages:
    9,546
    Likes Received:
    3,303
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Because it's just the old BD recycled and not a new one.

    I'm 99% sure the BD in the "AP" 4K is just the release from 2007.

    I could be wrong, but I don't think Lionsgate has produced new BDs for any of these older titles released on 4K - they're all just the existing discs tossed into the package...
     
  13. ghostwind

    ghostwind Stunt Coordinator
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2018
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    95
    Trophy Points:
    11
    Location:
    Boston, MA
    Real Name:
    Bogdan Urma
    Damn! This sucks, because now would be the time do it. I've said this in another thread (the Halloween 4K UHD RAH thread), but I still prefer watching non-HDR/DolbyVision material, as those modes cannot be properly calibrated on any display as I quickly found out. So I have a much more accurate image in SDR/709 1080p Blu-ray space, seeing it exactly as the creators intended. The downside is less resolution, which sometimes matters, and sometimes doesn't. I wish there was a 4K non-HDR :(
     
  14. Worth

    Worth Producer

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2009
    Messages:
    3,444
    Likes Received:
    2,492
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Real Name:
    Nick Dobbs
    A few non-HDR 4K discs have been released in Europe, but it seems that HDR is viewed as the main selling point for UHD.
     
  15. ghostwind

    ghostwind Stunt Coordinator
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2018
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    95
    Trophy Points:
    11
    Location:
    Boston, MA
    Real Name:
    Bogdan Urma
    Correct, because the resolution uptick is not noticeable many times, and especially on <65" displays. So they throw in HDR there with some bling. The biggest selling point should be the larger color space, but again, most displays can't be calibrated properly for that, OLEDs have issues with WCG, etc. Is a mess!
     
  16. John Dirk

    John Dirk Producer
    Supporter

    Joined:
    May 7, 2000
    Messages:
    3,073
    Likes Received:
    1,126
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    ATL
    Real Name:
    JOHN
    One of my favorite catalog titles. Looking forward to owning this new UHD release.
     
  17. John Dirk

    John Dirk Producer
    Supporter

    Joined:
    May 7, 2000
    Messages:
    3,073
    Likes Received:
    1,126
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    ATL
    Real Name:
    JOHN
    Satire, right?
     
  18. John Dirk

    John Dirk Producer
    Supporter

    Joined:
    May 7, 2000
    Messages:
    3,073
    Likes Received:
    1,126
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    ATL
    Real Name:
    JOHN
  19. ghostwind

    ghostwind Stunt Coordinator
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2018
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    95
    Trophy Points:
    11
    Location:
    Boston, MA
    Real Name:
    Bogdan Urma
    Yes, though what happened to the director, Mary Harron? No satire here!
     
  20. B-ROLL

    B-ROLL Cinematographer

    Joined:
    May 26, 2016
    Messages:
    2,542
    Likes Received:
    2,296
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Real Name:
    Bryan
    "Sarcasm
    Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter gibe or taunt". Sarcasm may employ ambivalence, although sarcasm is not necessarily ironic. Most noticeable in spoken word, sarcasm is mainly distinguished by the inflection with which it is spoken and is largely context-dependent. Wikipedia"
     

Share This Page