A few words about…™ Terminator 2 Judgement Day — in 4k UHD Blu-ray

Decidedly DVD resolution. Not even hitting Blu-ray spec. 4 Stars

I gazed at a glassy-looking screen, and attempted to figure out precisely what I was seeing on Terminator 2.

4k

Hopeful.

If no one had advised me that I was viewing a 4k disc, my presumption would have been DVD, with my gear doing what it could to up-rez.

Decidedly DVD resolution. Not even hitting Blu-ray spec.

But the image is beautifully clean, grain-free, and overall very pleasing for what it appears to be.

A truly gorgeous DVD, which in 4k, gains HDR.

No reason for it to exist.

Just noted that this is my second review of the same disc, as I just received, what I hoped would be an upgrade.

Image – 2

Audio – 5 (DTS-HD MA 5.1)

Pass / Fail – Fail

RAH

Published by

Robert Harris

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22 Comments

  1. I gave this review a "Likes" due to its absolute truths, both in text and score.
    Mark this as one more message to those technicians who terminated Terminator 2 and the potentials of 4K.
    This transfer gives double-dipping a bad, bad name.
    The judgement day for this disc and transfer has arrived;
    and "hasta la vista" is its verdict.

  2. T2 has been around the block so many times that the term "double-dipping" no longer applies. 😉 I wonder if we will EVER see a release of this film that meets expectations. History says otherwise, unfortunately.

  3. PMF

    I gave this review a "Likes" due to its truth, both in text and score.
    That's one more message to those technicians who terminated Terminator 2 and the potentials of 4K.
    Judgement Day, indeed. This transfer gives double-dipping a bad, bad name.:angry:

    In this case, the blame lies squarely at the feet of James Cameron. He's the one who wanted this look.

  4. dpippel

    T2 has been around the block so many times that the term "double-dipping" no longer applies. 😉 I wonder if we will EVER see a release of this film that meets expectations. History says otherwise, unfortunately.

    Yeah I wouldn't worry, the umpteenth dip is surely not far away. It will fix some of the problems with this release while introducing all new problems.

  5. Robert, is this the same disc that's coming out next Tuesday separate from that endo-arm collector's edition? It looks like the same thing they previously released but wanted to be sure. Thanks.

    Robert Harris


    Just noted that this is my second review of the same disc, as I just received, what I hoped would be an upgrade.

    Pass / Fail – Fail

    RAH

  6. Brad Cook

    Robert, is this the same disc that's coming out next Tuesday separate from that endo-arm collector's edition? It looks like the same thing they previously released but wanted to be sure. Thanks.

    Yeah, it's the same disc.

  7. Robert Harris

    Probably a re-ship (without slipcover) toward press on arm.

    It is. Lionsgate sent me a press solicit about the limited "plastic arm" edition, and that shocked me – seemed unlikely they'd actually send out the expensive "plastic arm" for review!

    And I was right to be skeptical, as they just sent the same stupid 4K from last year with no plastic arm! :angry:

  8. @Robert Harris, do you know if Lightstorm did the Digital Noise Reductionon directly on their remastering work (before color grading) or way after that only in the 3D convertion?
    On "Titanic" they did a perfectly new 4K transfer and then they moved to 3D convertion and made the Digital Noise Reduction, so the 2D Blu-ray use the untainted 4K transfer and contains filmgrain.

  9. Has there been any news for a corrected Terminator 2 4K Blu-ray? They really should go back and do a proper transfer that includes the normal film grain.

  10. It was a few years ago when my sister says to me, “Can we just agree to ignore anything that comes after blu-ray?”

    I’m wondering if that isn’t sage advice.

  11. What a damn disappointment. Cameron is reaching Lucas levels of revisionism. The sad thing is, this is probably the best we’ll get for the foreseeable future. And don’t even get me started on T1 not having the mono.

  12. …although ‘DVD’ seems a bit harsh. Overall I liked it. According to screencaps, this version is only approached by the remastered UK Studio Canal Blu ray.

  13. I think Lucas style revisionism is pushing it a bit. The colors are finally back close to what they were originaly, before it hit video with changes that have been implemented since.

    Regarding digital "fixes", you must realize every frame of the film has all it's elements separated by hand using computers, to make the 3D happen. If one of those elements is the crew visible in the shot, or a clearly apparent in 4K rubber mask on a stuntman face, it would be crazy to let them in the shot. You have to fix them, just as you create new elements in the picture to make the 3D happen, to improve the immersion experience without distractions.

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