Adam Lenhardt
Senior HTF Member
Returns tonight. Looks like we might actually find out what happened to Coulson in "Tahiti"...
The way our team has kind of turned the back half of this season into a reveal that uses the mystery of Coulson's death not just as a standalone reveal but as an integral part of the bigger reveal, which is that this organization Centipede, run by this person the Clairvoyant, has been part of almost everything we've done and connects on a deep level to everything going forward.
Can you say what the reveal was with Coulson's history? I'm not watching the show, but I'm curious if it's getting better.Adam Lenhardt said:It's like they separated out everything that works on the show (Coulson with the good guys and Raina with the bad guys) into one storyline and left everything that doesn't for the other storylines.I'm glad Coulson isn't a life model decoy or a clone. It wasn't the grand reveal I was expecting, but it was surprisingly dark and twisted for a show that is generally more lighthearted than really seems appropriate given the organization at its center. The best reveals merely raise more questions, and this one definitely fit into that mold.And it's always a good thing when Ron Glass graces my TV screen.
Instead of being dead for a matter of seconds as was stated in the pilot, Coulson was actually dead for days before S.H.I.E.L.D. decided it needed him. So they brought all of their advanced scientific and medical knowledge to bear trying to reanimate his corpse through surgery after surgery after surgery. Eventually they managed to do it, but Coulson was completely tortured in the process and had no desire to live by the end of it. So they popped off his skull and used this electric shock spidery robot to burn away the memories of what he endured and then artificially replaced them with memories of "Tahiti".DaveF said:Can you say what the reveal was with Coulson's history? I'm not watching the show, but I'm curious if it's getting better.
Or at least that's what "The Clairvoyant", and "Venus Flytrap" want him to think.Adam Lenhardt said:Instead of being dead for a matter of seconds as was stated in the pilot, Coulson was actually dead for days before S.H.I.E.L.D. decided it needed him. So they brought all of their advanced scientific and medical knowledge to bear trying to reanimate his corpse through surgery after surgery after surgery. Eventually they managed to do it, but Coulson was completely tortured in the process and had no desire to live by the end of it. So they popped off his skull and used this electric shock spidery robot to burn away the memories of what he endured and then artificially replaced them with memories of "Tahiti".
We do know that he saw the doctor who was present at the procedure saying "this is wrong." Coulson later visits the doctor in the present day, who doesn't give substantive details, but confirms that he was against what happened.Dheiner said:Or at least that's what "The Clairvoyant", and "Venus Flytrap" want him to think.
You mean Det. Ron Harris from Barney Miller. Venus, or Gordon Sims was played by Tim Reid.Dheiner said:Or at least that's what "The Clairvoyant", and "Venus Flytrap" want him to think.
I didn't take the "reanimate his corpse" and the "use spidery robot to erase his memories" as separate things. To me it looked like they used the spidery robot to operate on his brain, to essentially bring him back. It was this process that was extremely painful and made him want to just stay dead.Adam Lenhardt said:Instead of being dead for a matter of seconds as was stated in the pilot, Coulson was actually dead for days before S.H.I.E.L.D. decided it needed him. So they brought all of their advanced scientific and medical knowledge to bear trying to reanimate his corpse through surgery after surgery after surgery. Eventually they managed to do it, but Coulson was completely tortured in the process and had no desire to live by the end of it. So they popped off his skull and used this electric shock spidery robot to burn away the memories of what he endured and then artificially replaced them with memories of "Tahiti".
Damn.Nelson Au said:You mean Det. Ron Harris from Barney Miller. Venus, or Gordon Sims was played by Tim Reid.