S.H.I.E.L.D. (Joss Whedon's Live Action Marvel Universe TV Series on ABC)

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  1. Cameron Yee

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    It is a classic Whedon move that doesn't need to be over-analyzed. It's the subversion of a trope, mostly played for laughs, but also to close the book on bringing back the bad guy. Think of Loki getting ragdolled by the Hulk in The Avengers, as far as the humor.
     
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    I've never read any of the comics, so could someone give a quick run-down on "Life Model Decoy"? I am assuming it's some sort of clone, but is a little short of the real thing? And presumably the initial speculation was that even Coulson was an LMD (after dying in the Avengers), although as we now know, he was (basically) resurrected via TAHITI, even if that may (or may not) have altered his mind somewhat.
     
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    Say what you will about the show itself, but the promotional artwork for it has been fantastic.
     
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    Who's the character in the top right corner that's turned his back to the group? Is that Ward? Has to be because of the crack between that character and the rest of the team. And who's the character in the top left?
     
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    The top right and left character seems to be the same person, like they are saying they have split loyalties or personalities.
     
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    No, it's a new character. They are adding a few this season. I believe the actor is Nick Blood playing a character called Lance Hunter. image.jpg Also not included in the above picture is Mockingbird, who will join the show this season. I thought the below is an interesting article about the show. https://variety.com/2014/tv/news/agents-of-shield-season-2-preview-showrunners-tease-new-faces-old-enemies-1201309215/
     
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    Interesting bit from the linked article:
     
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    Haven't watched this in a very long time. Did they kill off the two scientists? They (particularly the woman) were a big draw for me
     
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    Nope, they're still alive. However, Fitz (the male one) was injured in the season finale, possible brain damage. They don't show us how he's doing at the end, so at this point, we know he's alive but we don't know how he's doing yet.
     
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    I don't know if it has been mentioned in the thread yet, but Lucy Lawless is also joining the show this season. I picked up the blu-ray this weekend and marathoned up through the episode with Sif ("Yes Men"). I stopped there so that I could do the final run of 8 ("End of the Beginning" through "Beginning of the End" in a marathon next weekend. I have to say, I enjoyed the earlier episodes MUCH more on this second viewing. Being able to watch one after the other with no several week gap between episodes certainly helped with the flow. Also, while the show really went into high gear with "Beginning of the End" I think it actually hit a nice stride starting with "The Bridge" (when Coulson is taken by Centipede and Mike is presumed killed). That started a really nice arc dealing with Coulson's resurrection, Sky's past, and Mike's new circumstance that flows really nicely from episode to episode. The momentum of this arc was really killed by all the breaks between episodes when it aired. So it's been said that the show really came together in the final third, but I'd say it actually really started moving nicely at the mid-way point with "The Bridge". A couple of things I noticed on the second viewing:The symbols that Coulson were drawing in the final episode were seen in the early episode with the Agent who was under "eye control". When Ward took her place and pretended to be her (for the sake of her handler) and took her mission, the thing she went into the Russian facility to see was a room with those symbols (or similar symbols) on the walls. Also, when Coulson found the alien (most likely a Kree) in The Guest House, I noticed similar symbols on its chest. Never picked up on that with the crappy ABC "HD" feed, but I was able to see them on the BD.
     
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    I'm kinda expecting the same thing whenever I pick up the discs and rewatch the series. (Not going to have a chance to do that before the premiere of season two, unfortunately.)

    I think the show was hurt in the beginning by those frequent breaks as much as the slower pace/lower stakes of the early episodes. It would go away for a couple weeks, show one new episode, then be gone for another few weeks.. and I think that made it even worse when it did come back with an inconsequential episode, because there had been all this waiting for what was essentially filler. Once it kicked into gear and dropped the filler it was great.

    The other thing, in hindsight, was that if they were going to wreck SHIELD in Captain America, maybe the show didn't need 16 or 18 episodes of a "normal" SHIELD to start with.. I think dramatically they might have been better served by having a shorter season without breaks. I think they kinda get that for this coming year, supposedly the plan is to run straight through from the premiere to Christmas break, run "Agent Carter" for its eight episodes in a row, and then return for the second half of SHIELD uninterrupted. That sounds like a much better plan to me. I wonder if the end of the season will serve as a lead-in for Avengers 2.
     
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    I'm sure the writers have been working hand-in-hand with the production of The Avengers to make sure everything converges smoothly.

    I felt the same way about the early episodes now playing much better on disc than they did during the regular season. Perhaps knowing now all the secrets that were being doled out bit by bit in the early episodes (how they all connected back to HYDRA) makes those shows now seem more relevant and on point.

    At any rate, this is one of the shows I've been most eager to see all summer to see if the momentum established late in the game can continue to pay rich dividends.
     
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    not that I am expecting too much in this way, but if some of the framework for shield is still up and operating, towards the end of this season, think any mention of some guy in Hells Kitchen might be referenced? it is sharing the same universe and the cross promotion wont hurt either program. Unlike WB/DC who still don't quite get it!
     
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    Should a new thread be started for the new season? Really looking forward to the show's return. This is the only show that I actually watch on the same night it airs (usually delayed a bit so I can skip commercials and finish pretty much "on time").
     
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    Well, that was a great start to the second season!Lots of interesting stuff going on here.
     
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    Decent premiere tonight. Other than the whole S.H.I.E.L.D. being destroyed by HYDRA thing, this was a lot closer to what I expected from a S.H.I.E.L.D. show than what we got in the first season. It was about the work of investigating, isolating and protecting the unknown instead of a lot of poorly scripted interpersonal dynamics. The episode also more effectively employed its ensemble cast than in previous episodes; every character got his or her moment, without any of them taking undue attention from the whole. Perhaps most impressively, they got Lucy Lawless and they just integrated her into the ensemble without spending a lot of time pointing out that, hey, we got Lucy Lawless. The handling of her character reminded me a bit of how Hitchcock used Janet Leigh in Psycho.It's nice that Skye has evidently become more of a trained professional in the months between the first season finale and the season premiere. The character works well when she's a professional utilizing her skill set. The only scene where the character grated for me tonight was when she was interrogating Ward, because it got back to those one dimensional emotions again. On the other hand, Brett Dalton continues to bring interesting colors to his performance as Ward -- reinforcing how good of any idea it was to make his straight-laced character the traitor.Coulson's new role necessarily means he won't be the same hands-on player that he was during the first season. They did a decent enough job transitioning the character into his new role without losing his sense of humor or distinct world view.Some actors work better on television, and don't scale up to the big screen well. Some actors thrive on the big screen and feel somehow diminished on television. Neal McDonough is one of the few actors who excels equally in both mediums; his cameo at the beginning of tonight's episode just reminded me how much I want to see more of him as Dum Dum Dugan. One of the truly inspired bits of casting in the Marvel universe, right up there with Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark. They're putting together a very solid cast for Agent Carter, and I really hope McDonough appears in it.
     
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