Nailwraps
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Possibly. But I like my TV shows on DVD restored, remastered, uncut, and with extras. I'm sure companies restores transfers for TV shows for MOD.
Originally Posted by Nailwraps
Possibly. But I like my TV shows on DVD restored, remastered, uncut, and with extras. I'm sure companies restores transfers for TV shows for MOD.
Originally Posted by Nailwraps
Some companies didn't even bother to do that for in-store releases!
Originally Posted by Nebiroth
Whilst I have doubts about the media used, my main objection to this program is the price structure.
The customer is being asked to pay a lot more, in return for receiving a lot less.
There can be absolutely no doubt that these products are "value brand" in content, but "premium brand" in price.
Originally Posted by Nebiroth
The customer is being asked to pay a lot more, in return for receiving a lot less.
There can be absolutely no doubt that these products are "value brand" in content, but "premium brand" in price.
On top of that, as someone outside of the USA, they're a pain to get hold of. Now, that is nothing new with studio exclusive titles, since none of them ship anything direct outside of non-domestic addresses, but it does irk that the WA is exclusive and that they neve rmanaged to sort out international shipping.
Thankfuly, the stuff does seem to eventually turn up on the likes of DD and Amazon. It's still cripplingly expensive - the price point means that they have to be bought one at a time, or attract customs fees, so you end up paying $6-8 shipping for one disc.
Luckily, there's not been anything in the WA so far that's been a "must have"
Originally Posted by Neil Brock
That argument is as valid as the one people used to use years ago about VHS tapes fading away. All completely baseless and unfounded falsehoods.
Originally Posted by Ethan Riley
Some of you are not being too fair here--some of you seem to believe that the studios have found a "cheap" means of producing dvds (MOD) and that they're fooling the fans into paying top dollar for inferior product. The truth is, this is their new alternative in a world that no longer seems to favor over-the-counter dvd releases. Face it--Circuit City is gone. Blockbuster Video is going away. Other big retailers are cutting back on their in-stock dvd supplies. That's because people aren't buying as much. And the studios come in and find an alternative for getting classic tv-on-dvd directly to the fans--who are still complaining. I don't get it.
Originally Posted by smithb
By quoting Neil, are you supporting the idea that our concerns over the longevity of DVD-R's is completely baseless?
My personal take is that the MOD program costs studios more in the long run to support because they are not mass producing disks but taking a more manual approach bringing a higher labor cost with a preset set profit margin. An obviously less risky venture on their part. Now typically when you have a preset profit margin, the percentage does not have to be as high as the more risky pressed approach where some may lose money in the long run. I have no idea what their actual costs are so I can't say much about the MOD pricing being fair. While I have no direct knowledge, this is my best guess. Now this does not take into consideration remastering efforts since these up-front costs have other benefits beyond DVD distribution. So chances are the one's they are not remastering were never in the plans to remaster anyway.
I would say that most of the complaints here are directed at MOD program that support DVD-R's. But it might be useful to differentiate which do and which do not. Personally, I rarely buy DVD's in a store anyway, so I'm not sure that being less available there is an issue. I would say that the better on-line pricing and selection has more to do with that.
However, I will agree with you that we need to continue to strongly support TV on DVD if we want to see it continue. Especially, for old TV shows. While I have not purchased any MOD TV sets I have purchased 70+ seasons of pressed sets this years (with more to come), and 100+ last year. I am supporting Timeless and Shout and big studio pressed disks. As long as I have plenty to interest me with pressed releases that will be my focus. If that dries up then I will have to consider MOD sets with no other choice (unless download and burn becomes available).
Originally Posted by ChuckWL
One of the big costs with making regular discs is storage. From what I have gathered many of the studios were paying huge monthly fees for warehouse storage of unwanted and unsold discs. MOD makes that a mute point!
Originally Posted by Nebiroth
I keep coming back to the same thought with this.
We keep on hearing how the MOD programs are reducing the production costs associated with traditional DVD releases, for example, they don't have to go to a third party manufacturer to make the things, they don;t have minimum-size orders, no storage costs, no distribution costs, etc etc.
But that returns us to the elephant in the room - in that case, why are they so damn expensive?
It sure isn't because the studios are being lavish with restoration or extra features. Quite the reverse.
The sale of product in high-street stores has little to do with this. Products are priced based on how much they cost to make and, more importantly, how much people are willing to pay for them. Evidently, the studios took the view that the sort of customer these titles interest would be willing to pay a lot for them coupled with their very limited availability and decided that they could charge a lot for them.
I refute what the poster said above: the studios *have* found a way to produce inferior product cheaply and get a high price for them.
I'd even go so far as to say that a few discs probably sell because of their exclusivity and high price tag!
Originally Posted by Nebiroth
I do agree that the prices being charged for movies available on the MOD program are too high.