Fox put in bid to takeover Warner (1 Viewer)

[Randy Korstick]

I didn't say they did. But they do for for DVD and its no comparison to what Warners offers and it goes along way to showing how they feel about catalog titles. So Fox buying Warner would = less catalog titles not more and lower quality.
I don't know why we are still talking about this anyway since its not happening and I don't believe the offer ever included their film library just the cable channels.

Fox doesn't have an archive program for Blu-ray.

 

[Robert Crawford]

...but just as often, this includes the internal empire builders plus those simply not pulling their weight.

Coincidentally, the communications company I was with until retiring recently had just completed such an exercise...taking almost 2 years after their last merger to see where all the fat was...who would be needed going forward, and who wouldn't. Once that analysis was complete though, they 'flattened' the org in record time, the biggest cuts coming from the ranks of their expensively salaried and optioned mid to upper mid-level Managers, including a whole tier of Directors. Thankfully, I had already set my retirement in motion, but even watching all this unfold from the sidelines, was quite the floor show.

So typically, I think the deepest cull after merger isn't among those with their sleeves up beavering away in the trenches, but from the usual clot of middle-level management...which becomes more glaring after 2 or 3 companies merge. Ironically, and perhaps significantly, I saw more staff escorted to the door from the parent company.

Maybe, maybe not, each merger is slightly different, but one thing we do know is that past mergers in the entertainment industry has greatly affected the work force in their home video segment. I know that for a fact!

 

[ROclockCK]

I can't speak to that specifically Robert.

However, ours was a communications company (networks + content), so at least there are some similarities in terms of consolidating and leveraging merged assets.

The major effect on the ranks was not lay-offs but more combined work. Plus some staff also followed their out-placed peers to other companies.

 

[andySu]

Was Irwin Allen 40 years ahead of the curve?

I only watched the THX laserdisc THE TOWERING INFERNO a few weeks ago. I think it was cool end credit.

 

[Sam Favate]

A merger of Fox and Warner would be a terrible thing for the movie, TV and home video industries. A lot of (talented!) people would be out of work and there would be an even smaller handful of executives making decisions as to what got made, picked up for the new season or released on video. Let's all hope it never comes to pass.

 

[cinerama10]

We all know what Fox did to the recent digital transfer of WEST SIDE STORY. ( the added offensive language that was not in the original movie).Maybe Rupert Murdoch can reissue the film on bluray in the original unadulterated version? While he is at it maybe a decent Rogers and Hammerstein collection without the flaws of THE KING AND I etc.. There was a time when movies were made by studios that really had a passion for cinema .Today it is all about profits for shareholders rather than anything else.

 

[FoxyMulder]

We all know what Fox did to the recent digital transfer of WEST SIDE STORY. ( the added offensive language that was not in the original movie).Maybe Rupert Murdoch can reissue the film on bluray in the original unadulterated version?

I had forgotten all about that thread.

 

[AnthonyClarke]

And a greatly amusing thread it was too!

 

[Mike Frezon]

I had forgotten all about that thread.

I was hoping everybody had forgotten about that thread.

 

[zoetmb]

We all know what Fox did to the recent digital transfer of WEST SIDE STORY. ( the added offensive language that was not in the original movie).Maybe Rupert Murdoch can reissue the film on bluray in the original unadulterated version? While he is at it maybe a decent Rogers and Hammerstein collection without the flaws of THE KING AND I etc.. There was a time when movies were made by studios that really had a passion for cinema .Today it is all about profits for shareholders rather than anything else.

I knew about the improper fade to black at the beginning. I knew that they did not use the 70mm 6-track sound mix as a basis for the 5.1. But I never heard anything about "added offensive language". Where would they have gotten this language from? What scenes or songs had that language?

But you know the movie did have censored song lyrics that were different than when the show originally appeared on Broadway, even in the conservative 1950s. On Broadway, it was most certainly not, "Dear Officer Krupke, Krupp you!"

As for the Fox/Warner merger, not happening. Regardless of the price, the Fox deal included a lot of non-voting stock because the Murdochs don't want to lose control of the company. TW would never accept that - it almost doesn't matter what the price is. And the price would have to probably approach $110 a share. And by the time the Government approved the deal and a merger could take place, Murdoch will be running that great media company in the sky.

 

[FoxyMulder]

I knew about the improper fade to black at the beginning. I knew that they did not use the 70mm 6-track sound mix as a basis for the 5.1. But I never heard anything about "added offensive language". Where would they have gotten this language from? What scenes or songs had that language?

They did have audio and i listened to it and i could say it sounded like a swear word but after much research i also posted a link showing how hearing loss can make us all think we hear things that we actually do not hear, i have listened to too many movies at high volume and it's damaged my hearing, i hear to around 13khz these days, hate to think what it will be in ten years time.

 

[zoetmb]

What a coincidence -- I think I can only hear to 13KHz also.

 

[andySu]

We all know what Fox did to the recent digital transfer of WEST SIDE STORY. ( the added offensive language that was not in the original movie).Maybe Rupert Murdoch can reissue the film on bluray in the original unadulterated version? While he is at it maybe a decent Rogers and Hammerstein collection without the flaws of THE KING AND I etc.. There was a time when movies were made by studios that really had a passion for cinema .Today it is all about profits for shareholders rather than anything else.

This is the version of WEST SIDE STORY I want to play in my home with 5 screen fronts and mono surrounds (not dtsHDMA 7.1 stuff that). I want the original 70mm mag mix. Don't say its impossible to put this onto disc in 5.1 or 7.1 since the encoding for 5.1, 7.1 is total cock-up!




Encoding in the following order and let me worry about re-wiring re-plugging the channels.Use the front as normalLeftCentreRightUse the common side wall surrounds as
Duel mono surrounds that can be spread to the rear back though additional re-wiring so I'm fully surrounded.Use the rear back forLeft-centreRight-centreDon't use LFE.1 as it was never intended for the film in the 1960's.

There sorted now I have tracks to play with 5 screen with no studio excuses no more.


I'm fed up with studios denying us the paying consumer fans of the, left-centre right-centre since Dolby released AC-3 on laserdisc the whole Dolby 5.1 has been a sheer mess with improper 70mm five-screen being formatted correctly for the home as exhibited in the cinema..This nonsense of PLIIz wide fronts/heights isn't discrete to handle the encode, and Dolby Atmos, (sigh) waste of time that format will be with discrete overhead surrounds. big deal. WHAT ABOUT THE 70mm FIVE SCREEN! All I'd be paying for with Atmos when its released is more channels for overhead and less of the original 70mm experience as the new Home Atmos, doesn't include option of LC RC, like the pro version does.

6-track Five wide front / mono surrounds
6-track Three screen front / sub bass / mono surrounds
6-track Three screen front / sub bass / stereo surrounds

 

[MatthewA]

I only watched the THX laserdisc THE TOWERING INFERNO a few weeks ago. I think it was cool end credit.

So it seems they actually may ever love like this again after all!

 

[andySu]

So it seems they actually may ever love like this again after all!

he,he, ha, very funny.

 

[cinerama10]

So it seems they actually may ever love like this again after all!

Watch 'OUT OF INFERNO' in 3-D. It's China's answer to THE TOWEREING INFERNO and far far superior with no clichéd Hollywood characters.Brilliant script as well.

 

[cinerama10]

This is the version of WEST SIDE STORY I want to play in my home with 5 screen fronts and mono surrounds (not dtsHDMA 7.1 stuff that). I want the original 70mm mag mix. Don't say its impossible to put this onto disc in 5.1 or 7.1 since the encoding for 5.1, 7.1 is total cock-up!




Encoding in the following order and let me worry about re-wiring re-plugging the channels.Use the front as normalLeftCentreRightUse the common side wall surrounds as
Duel mono surrounds that can be spread to the rear back though additional re-wiring so I'm fully surrounded.Use the rear back forLeft-centreRight-centreDon't use LFE.1 as it was never intended for the film in the 1960's.

There sorted now I have tracks to play with 5 screen with no studio excuses no more.


I'm fed up with studios denying us the paying consumer fans of the, left-centre right-centre since Dolby released AC-3 on laserdisc the whole Dolby 5.1 has been a sheer mess with improper 70mm five-screen being formatted correctly for the home as exhibited in the cinema..This nonsense of PLIIz wide fronts/heights isn't discrete to handle the encode, and Dolby Atmos, (sigh) waste of time that format will be with discrete overhead surrounds. big deal. WHAT ABOUT THE 70mm FIVE SCREEN! All I'd be paying for with Atmos when its released is more channels for overhead and less of the original 70mm experience as the new Home Atmos, doesn't include option of LC RC, like the pro version does.

6-track Five wide front / mono surrounds
6-track Three screen front / sub bass / mono surrounds
6-track Three screen front / sub bass / stereo surrounds

Like it or not,home theatre (bluray and dvds) can never replicate the stunning quality of seeing a 70mm film in a cinema..It is such a pity that film is on its death bed. Only the memories now survive. Even the once great IMAX is but a shadow of its former glory as far as quality is concerned.

 

[cinerama10]

I knew about the improper fade to black at the beginning. I knew that they did not use the 70mm 6-track sound mix as a basis for the 5.1. But I never heard anything about "added offensive language". Where would they have gotten this language from? What scenes or songs had that language?

But you know the movie did have censored song lyrics that were different than when the show originally appeared on Broadway, even in the conservative 1950s. On Broadway, it was most certainly not, "Dear Officer Krupke, Krupp you!"

As for the Fox/Warner merger, not happening. Regardless of the price, the Fox deal included a lot of non-voting stock because the Murdochs don't want to lose control of the company. TW would never accept that - it almost doesn't matter what the price is. And the price would have to probably approach $110 a share. And by the time the Government approved the deal and a merger could take place, Murdoch will be running that great media company in the sky.

But will Murdock be listening into other peoples conversations?

 

[Walter Kittel]

Fox withdraws their Time Warner bid.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/fox-withdraws-time-warner-bid-1407269617

- Walter.

 

[jcroy]

Fox withdraws their Time Warner bid.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/fox-withdraws-time-warner-bid-1407269617

- Walter.

Quite telling from the WSJ article is the quote, "Time Warner's unwillingness to "engage with us" ".

If this was indeed the case, then this would mean the only way Fox could acquire TW would be through a hostile takeover.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeover#Hostile_takeovers


Hostile takeovers tend to be very expensive.