TPM - lightning fast Jedi

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  1. andrew markworthy

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    Apologies if this has been posted before, but I couldn't find it. Early in TPM, having survived the gas and 'basic' droid attack, the two Jedi are faced with droids with protective shields. One of them says 'this is a stand-off' and they run off. However, the speed at which they run off looks totally unnatural (this is difficult to describe, but it looks as if someone put picures of the Jedi on a transparent sheet and then simply pulled them out of shot). Very soon afterwards, there is a long shot of the docking bay and we see the Jedi slide down a chute - again, it appears unnaturally fast. Has anyone else noticed this, and is there an explanation?
    [Oh yes - before anyone says 'ah yes, the perils of R2 speed-up', it should be said that I have a R1 copy].
     
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  3. mark_d

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    It's a "force run" type thing. Quick burst of emergency speed. No reason they shouldn't be able to do this given that they could, apparently, leap tall buildings in a single bound [​IMG]
    I like it.
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    Hey, has anyone noticed that some parts of The Matrix look kind of green?
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  5. Frank L

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    Yeah... it's the Force Run, and it's a cool concept. Of course I never understood why Obi-Wan didn't use it on the Generator room to catch up with Qui-Gon and Darth Maul, instead of getting stuck behind...
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    As Yoda put it - "a Jedi's strength flows from the force". So needless to say they should be stronger and faster than the average guy, thus things like force run and jump etc follows naturally.
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    I guess this may end up being pushed to Movies, but I figured he didn't force run for two possible reasons - he'd just survived a rather hefty fall and subsequently had to do a massive force jump to get back into the fight. Maybe he needed a little time to recuperate?
    Also, maybe his force-brake skills weren't so hot and if he massively accellerated and those laser-walls came back on... one toasty Obi Wan.
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    Haven't you ever played the Jedi Knight PC game? [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks for the info guys, though I've got to say that it doesn't look very convincing to me, and there's no reason why the following scene where they drop into the docking bay should look so odd (what's that? - the Force fall?).
     
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    Yeah, the Jedi jumping out of the ventilation shaft are just bad cgi. ILM ain't perfect!
     
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    I recall the "force run" being an element one could adopt in the old Super Nintendo Star Wars Trilogy games. It was funny watching TPM for the first time thinking "oh, they actually did it"....
    Dan (UK)
     
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    See, it absolutely amazes me what the Jedi did and didn't do in TPM.
    Did do:
    Run real fast
    jump real high
    grab lightsabre
    cheat at gambling
    make friends and influence people
    Didn't do:
    get out of genuinely bad situations.
    "Master! Destroyer droids!"
    "Pick them up, point them in the opposite direction, walk up to them, and cut them in half, my young padawan."
    "Shut the blast doors!"
    "I can't! Somebody's controlling my mind!"
    and so on.
     
  20. andrew markworthy

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    I rewatched the appropriate section and I think what is unconvincing for me is the run and drop scenes being together. The 'Force run' would be slightly more convincing if it weren't for the not very convincing drop scene which follows straight afterwards.
     

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