Langotriel
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Right so.. what amplifier do i get ? i need one that feeds 150-200 W at 4ohms and double that at 2 ohms (because the centre speaker will be double the parts)
All centre speakers i see are bigger and has more drivers than the other speakers.. it has to cover more area so it makes sense to me you gotta remember these rows will be about 18 - 21 feet wide there is a significant space in the middle. If it isn't necessary, why is it always done?schan1269 said:Why are you running the center parallel instead of series...
And why two centers in the first place?
When the L&R mains are set up with the center speaker & then EQ'd the 3 work together to produce a VERY wide front soundstage image. Rather than 2 front centers, I would custom make a wider center speakers with 2 opposing woofers (1 on each end) & 1 tweeter in the center top area - match exactly the tweeter & woofers in that with those in the L&R mains.Langotriel said:All centre speakers i see are bigger and has more drivers than the other speakers.. it has to cover more area so it makes sense to me you gotta remember these rows will be about 18 - 21 feet wide there is a significant space in the middle. If it isn't necessary, why is it always done?
Amp - figure out your loads & go from thereLangotriel said:Alright so.. what amp will i need? and what exactly should i do with the centre?
Well... many things have been cleared up.I found a design for the 7 speakers to around AND i am going with dual THT sub boxes.. Can you recommend any specific receivers that can match the A3030? that is the one i am currently considering..And they are not customers.. more like friends.. and i am in charge of the design of everything in the theatre fun fun..Dave Moritz said:I agree that there really is no need to double up on speakers and building them is another story. While mids and tweeters are not effected by the size of the box the woofer and subs are. You could take 10 woofers and put them in the same enclosure but there is a good bet they will sound different. Are you prepared to do a lot of experimenting? Most customers are not willing to wait for someone to play around with speakers till they get it right. This is also getting the right size drivers for the room matched with enough power to fill the room with sound and get it loud enough for the customer. You may want to seriously rethink custom built speakers and buying some from a repeatable speaker company.
There is also alot to tuning the room after the speakers are placed and making sure the subwoofers are correctly placed. One thing some people never think of is that a room tuned with no people in the seats sounds alot different once you get all the seats with people in them.
I have owned Yamaha in the past and they do have good sounding receivers but IHMO they have been passed up with other companies using Audyssey. I would also look at Denon and Marantz and maybe Integra and look at some Yamaha's but the Yamaha is not THX rated and I am not sure if they ever where. You may want to consider a receiver and a power amp combo to give you the power to push all the speakers. I would at least use a 3 channel power amp to power the left, center and right speakers since they will be the most demanding compared to the rest of the speakers. $10,000 may seem like alot but it doesn't take long before that budget is chewed up.
I don't understand why you say this, as the Yam 9. & 11. configs using their YPAO EQing allow for saving multi-positional seating position settings for both width & depth. When used with proper speaker height & width arrangements (& types), handle those issues remarkably.schan1269 said:The only area Yamaha is falling behind is... Width. MCACC and Audyssey both have it. Not sure about Sony(and whatever theirs is called...I always forget). NAD nor Anthem have width either. That will probably change once DTS Neo X becomes more prevalent. I can just imagine DTS Neo X w/ rear presence(following along, that would be 13.1).
Apparently you don't have the slightest idea what...Audyssey DSX widthOrMCACC widthAre.Those have absolutely nothing, at all, to do with you counter explanation.Dougofthenorth said:I don't understand why you say this, as the Yam 9. & 11. configs using their YPAO EQing allow for saving multi-positional seating position settings for both width & depth. When used with proper speaker height & width arrangements (& types), handle those issues remarkably.See http://www.avsforum.com/t/1191582/dpl-iix-thx-select-2-cinema-listening-experience/50_50for a rather extensive & informative discussion on this... Beyond that, the Yam DSP choices further the capabilities.And of course any auto-EQing usually needs tweaking anyway.The higher end Yam AVRs like the A3030, certainly have extensive OSD menus in that regard.
Well, Apparently you don't have the slightest idea what...I know or do not knowschan1269 said:Apparently you don't have the slightest idea what... Audyssey DSX width Or MCACC width Are. Those have absolutely nothing, at all, to do with you counter explanation.
Or as you previously stated 13.1 or 13."X"schan1269 said:And numerous "powers that be" in the audio world have said... Width is more immersive than height(which I don't adhere to that thought). So, Yamaha not having width puts them behind those that would prefer width...or DTS Neo X. Hence why I said... Imagine if Yamaha added DTS Neo X to rear Presence. I'd be first in line.