DVI DVD Player? (1 Viewer)

[Peter.LeBlond]

I asked about this about six weeks ago and I just wanted to double check to see if anybody had heard if there have been any DVD players announced to be released soon with DVI ouput. I will be getting another DVD player to go into my new projector which has a DVI input, and would be really sad if I get a unit now, if there is a DVI compatible player being released in the next few months. Thanks in advance.

 

[DanielSmi]

Was rumored that Pioneer Elite was gonna release one but have heard nothing for a few months it was supposed to replace the Dv-38a I think it was gonna be called dv-49dvi but I haven't heard anything for a while. If i remember correctely they where showing a dvd player connected through DVI at the 2002 CES last January but maybe it was iLink.

Daniel Smith

 

[Gabriel_Lam]

The Faroudja NRS-DCS has one:
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Tag Mclaren's DVD32R and DVD32FLR have DVI when upgraded with their new Progressive Scan Module PSM192:

http://www.tagmclaren.com/dev/news/news118.asp
There's the Cinematrix progressive scan output board for the Sony DVP-7700 DVD player:

http://www.smr-home-theatre.org/ces2.../page_04.shtml
There's probably a few others.

 

[Stan T]

Daniel what's the difference between a DVI connection & Ilink?

 

[DanielSmi]

Stan,

DVI stands for Digital Video Interface and is currently the connection on computers for digital monitors like LCD displays, and is available on most high end graphic cards. DVI has the ability to pass high-def video uncompressed in a secure encoded transmission. iLink also known as Firewire and IEEE 1394 has a transfer rate of 400Mb/s and is currently only being used to digitally transfer audio such as DVD-A and soon will most likely carry SACD as well in a secure format. I think with a bandwidth of 400Mb/s iLink would be capable of transferring uncompressed audio and video through one cable but is only being used for audio purposes. DVI is for video only and iLink is currently in HT for audio only actually now that I think about it I think the D-theater format is capable of recording video through an iLink connection though iLink is used to transfer digital video from digital camcorders to computers and for digital camcorders to some dvd recorders. But in HT iLink is now only used to transfer audio between HT components.

Daniel Smith

 

[TomMadden]

Firewire (which is called iLink by Sony) is also used to transfer the video and audio streams from DV camcorders onto computers for editing. Just about any DV camcorder on the market today has a Firewire/IEEE 1394/iLink connector on it.

It is one of the things that has made digital video so easy and affordible. It also won a technical emmy award for Apple Computer, it's inventor.

 

[Gabriel_Lam]

Current single link DVI has a bandwidth of 1.65Gb/sec (1650 Mb/s), and dual link has 3.3Gb/sec.

 

[Kvit Lim]

Current single link DVI has a bandwidth of 1.65Gb/sec (1650 Mb/s), and dual link has 3.3Gb/sec.

Does DVI-D (dual) require a different cable from DVI single? Or is DVI-D backwards compatible w/ single?
So that a "doubled" source only displays single on a single display?
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[Gabriel_Lam]

DVI-D is DVI Digital, not DVI dual-link.

But yes, dual link DVI is backwards compatible with single link.

 

[NatL]

When they do develop HD-DVD, do you think that they will require firewire or DVI? (I just bought an RPTV which has neither).

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[Kvit Lim]

well I just read about DVI equipped dvd players and it doesn't look to promising if the Motion Pictures Assoc. of America (MPAA) starts to wave its ugly legal stick. :frowning:
http://www.audiorevolution.com/news/...nnection.shtml

By Jerry Del Colliano
Exploiting a loophole in the DVD Consortium agreement, a handful of mostly high-end A/V manufactures are showing and/or selling prototypes of DVD players with configuration that allow a straight digital connection between a DVD player and a digital video source such as a plasma screen, a DLP or a D-ILA projector. In order to make an official DVD player, you have to pay a license that sets the rules of how you can configure the player's software. A digital video out is a violation of these rules that can cause the seller to face a penalty reportedly as high as $100,000 per unit sold.
The companies that are getting around the rule are those who buy OEM DVD transports from other companies and then repackage them. Those companies never signed the DVD agreement, and are thus technically not eligible for the penalty.
The effects of removing as many as four layers of analog-to-digital conversion between a DVD player (a digital source) and a TV (also increasingly a digital component) is stunning, as shown by Accurate Imaging at the CEDIA trade show last week in Minneapolis. They showed a store-bought DVD disc played back on their own player, via their own encrypted DVD signal. The picture looked noticeably better than that of a DVD that goes through all of the extra A/D and D/A conversion found in a traditional system.
Copyright owners of material usually found on DVDs, aka the Hollywood studios, aren’t very pleased. There are two digital video technologies being vigorously discussed, namely: DVI and Firewire (1394). Neither have been agreed to by the studios and/or many of the equipment manufacturers. It looks as though some of the companies that push the higher limits of A/V performance aren’t going to wait for a standard to offer a more simple connection.
So what happens next? The studios could sue the high-end companies or try to hit the OEM companies up for their penalties. They could also take a page from DIRECTV, who pretty much ignored the people with augmented an “H Card” (which gives you every channel available in the system, including pay-per-view, sports and porn) while they built the overall numbers of users to higher levels. They then switched to the “HU Card,” which is far more difficult to bootleg. Some hardcore satellite thieves bought entire PCs to emulate the card so that they could continue stealing the signal. Most were so hooked on DIRECTV that they simply paid for the services that they had learned to love on their old “H Card.”
No rational A/V enthusiast disagrees with the premise that the movie studios deserve to protect their content from rampant piracy. Even the studios agree that consumers should be able to have one or a few copies of the DVDs we buy. What they object to is the out of control copying of their movies overseas. Piracy, most of all, gives more reason for Hollywood and electronics manufacturers to officially adopt a digital video standard and move on to profit in these boom times for the A/V and home video industry.

Looks like HT-PC might be the budget way to go for now.