DTS Laserdiscs....... (1 Viewer)

[Declan]

Mark......

Is there a review of that iScan Ultra anywhere? I take it, it only does NTSC sources. So could it be possible to use it with a multistandard TV. My Panansonic does the 2 versions of NTSC and of course PAL as well.

Does it help with the composite artifects that you can see on small details, like the Brachosaur's skin on the JP ld?

But that 4x3 to 16:9 scaling sounds great. Have you tried that feature with non-anamorphic DVD's? If so.... any improvement?

A word to all you format/LD bashers...

Just because LD has been replaced with DVD, does'nt mean LD is just DEAD full stop. They DO sound better than DVD's, especially DTS LD's. Thats why I started this thread, I was listening to DTS DVD's for about 2 years before i ever heard a DTS LD, and the LD's are most definitley better.

One small question to you format bashers..
Do any of you own a record player?

 

[Mark_Wilson]

iScan Ultra review. Not really a review but a test of its deinterlacing capability, only. Try a Google for a review.

iScan @ Home Theater Secrets


DVDO home page


I do believe it does PAL too. Yes I've used it with non-anamorphic dvds too. Works great!

It even has a feature to 'correct' the Chroma Upsample Bug if your dvd player has it, most do.

 

[Lee_eel]

Yes, i own a record player. Record players were hugely popular and anyone who was into music had one. Can we say the same about movies and Laserdisc? All the posts that have a go about format bashing forget one thing. It is them who constantly make a point of mentioning LD's superior sound.

 

[greg_t]

Lets not forget that DTS LD bitrate was 1234kbps. So they were not full bitrate like many think they are. So this nullifys our trolls post that with fullbitrate DTS dvd, LD lose the advantage they had. LD never had a bitrate advantage. The advantage DTS LD has is that DTS did the mix and encoding themselves and put care into them.

 

[Aaron Reynolds]

Lee, I'm totally missing your point. Are you saying that the observations made in this thread about specific program materials and their comparitive qualities are false?

 

[Tim Glover]

At the risk of being sarcastic the people I know who are always putting down laserdisc, dts laserdisc etc...are the ones who strictly watch dvd's on their pc and next to the mouse is a bottle of oxy-10 acne wash. :b

And I'm not trying to disrespect home theater pc's...I have one too. But in no way does it or will it ever deliver the resolution or high end sound that my dedicated home theater system does.

I think this is one of the factors Warner Bros. doesn't do dts. They know alot of people (kids & adults) use their computers for dvd viewing. Does it really matter to include another sound option? I say yes!

I love the dvd format with it's clean images and cool features. Since it's so popular now, it has been dumbed down somewhat for the masses.

The days of the niche- true collector's of audio/video deluxe editions are over; but thankfully we still have ebay and a few select outlets to pursue the holy grail of home theater audio.

Ok. Rant over. Sorry to get off-topic a bit.

 

[Aaron Reynolds]

BTW thanks for the iScan info, guys. Currently not in the budget, but it's filed away in the back of the brain for the next time I find a pile of money.

 

[RobD]

DVD has been dumbed down for the masses and I think that may be why the DTS LDs sound better. The mixes on them were utterly no compromise, put these mixes on dvd and alot of surround mini system would fail miserably at recreating them. My experience with DTS LD is fairly limited so far but I intend to do some more direct comparisons just to satisfy my own curiosity.

 

[Damin J Toell]

All the posts that have a go about format bashing forget one thing. It is them who constantly make a point of mentioning LD's superior sound.

When you choose to enter a thread entitled "DTS Laserdiscs," you run the risk of hearing opinions about LD other than your own. Please don't keep ruining informative LD threads by just bashing the format for no reason. OK, we get it, we know you don't like LD. Your point has been made, now please move on and let the thread continue without your insults about the format.

DJ

 

[Mark_Wilson]

Lets not forget that DTS LD bitrate was 1234kbps.

Thats a new one on me. It was 1411kbs as was the PCM track that it replaces. Dolby Digital on LD was 384kbs which can be lower than DVDs 448kbs maximum. Unfortunately most DVDs are still only 384kbs.

 

[Aaron Reynolds]

DVD has been dumbed down for the masses and I think that may be why the DTS LDs sound better. The mixes on them were utterly no compromise, put these mixes on dvd and alot of surround mini system would fail miserably at recreating them.

I would agree that in many cases this is true. It also applies to the PCM tracks on LDs, which are often frightening in their range. The warning label on the original widescreen Apocalypse Now LD is needed...I wrecked a speaker with that disc.

(yes, at the napalm strike)

 

[Declan]

Cool, what the warning say?

Mark....... cheers for the iScan info.

 

[greg_t]

Here is a link to a DTS whitepaper, it's about their history and has some technical detail. The paper states that the DTS LD/DTS CD bitrate is 1235kbps, it is listed near the bottom of page 2.

http://www.dtsonline.com/media/uploa...,downloads.pdf

 

[Adam Barratt]

It was 1536kbs as was the PCM track that it replaces

Neither PCM nor DTS were ever 1536kbps on LaserDisc. This exceeds Red Book sample specifications.

Adam

 

[greg_t]

Kind of off topic, but I just came from a local K-mart where I picked up the full bitrate DTS DVD of EdTV for $9.99. I was shocked when I saw it because I've never seen a seperate DTS release outside of Best Buy. If anyone wants this movie, you may want to check your local K-mart.

Adam, I was just checking out your website. Very good and informative.

 

[Grant B]

Personally I think Strange Days DTS has a great soundtrack and a strong video presentation though I haven't watched it in a couple years.

The AC3 version of that movie is pretty hot too.

Hi Declan find any new DTS LDs lately?

i have a copy of Tank Girl which is the only dts stereo disc I have ever seen. Anyone know if that's the only one?

 

[David Norman]

No, there are several of those Matrix Surround laserdiscs that frequently cause all sort of trouble on Ebay since they aren't real "DTS" discs.

Tank Girl, Speechless, Blown Away, Freddie's New Nightmare off the top of my head and I'm sure there are quite a few others. Blown Away is the tough one since there is also a DTS Digital disc and more than one person has bought that one thinking it's the more valuable DTS 5.1 LD version.

 

[Philip Hamm]

Not to mention the 5.1 DTS disc of "Blown Away" sounds like ass.

"The Mask" is an interesting one, it's got the "DTS" stereo PCM track and a Dolby Digital track.

Basically the old stereo "DTS" is compatible with ProLogic.

 

[Aaron Reynolds]

Declan: it said something about how it had a wide, wide range and that care should be taken not to play it too loud. It also noted that there was a less-expansive mix on the analog tracks. I'll try to remember to look at it tonight and get the exact wording for you.

 

[Jacinto]

Have any of you guys tried to get the best of both worlds by synchronizing a DTS LD soundtrack with the video of an anamorphic DVD? Sure you'd have to re-sync after each side change on the LD, but it would be a fun experiment. Me, I don't have any DVDs that I already owned on LD, so I can't try this as of yet.

Thoughts?