So, @John Dirk do you have an assessment of the difference in Atmos with the speakers overhead, rather than high and to the sides?
So, @John Dirk do you have an assessment of the difference in Atmos with the speakers overhead, rather than high and to the sides?
Ron, unless you're going to run that 13.2 receiver along with some external amps, I'm not so sure how much of an audio improvement you're going to get with 6 overheads instead of four.I have a question for the experts...
I thought Dolby Atmos in the home was limited to 4 overhead channels
Now I see Denon out with a new flagship receiver (AVR-X8500H) that ups it to 6 overheads.
Is the Dolby Atmos encoding capable of doing 6 overhead channels? If so, I may have to buy a new receiver.
My understanding is the object oriented concept of Atmos means the number of output channels is only limited by the decoding. You might notice, when you look at the on-screen info when playing back Atmos, it doesn't show a finite number of source channels like with other surround formats. It just says "Atmos" or "DTS:X" and then shows which channels you have active. Emotiva has a 9.1.6 processor coming out, and I seem to recall someone has announced a 32 channel one. I'm guessing that one is for commercial use.I have a question for the experts...
I thought Dolby Atmos in the home was limited to 4 overhead channels
Now I see Denon out with a new flagship receiver (AVR-X8500H) that ups it to 6 overheads.
Is the Dolby Atmos encoding capable of doing 6 overhead channels? If so, I may have to buy a new receiver.
Ron - do you have separate amps or are you running just a receiver? I will tell you that going to separates is the most important step you can take right now, if you haven't already.Thanks for the response guys. Not just that.....for saving me a lot of money in having to upgrade my receiver.
I already have the 6 overhead channels in place. I initially installed two extra speakers in the ceiling. The extra two are right above the screen. There is a long story attached to putting in the two extra speakers.
If I am not going to hear a difference then no use upgrading.
I was just surprised to hear that Atmos in the home could utilize more than four overheads. Initially -- and I thought it was even discussed in this thread -- home Atmos was limited to 4 overheads by design. I guess that is not the case.
Ron - do you have separate amps or are you running just a receiver? I will tell you that going to separates is the most important step you can take right now, if you haven't already.
Good luck with that, Dave.Ron - do you have separate amps or are you running just a receiver? I will tell you that going to separates is the most important step you can take right now, if you haven't already.
I have to agree with you John. Ron, you should have your Outlaw amp power your main channels and your surround speakers and let your Denon receiver power the Atmos channels.Ron, I expect @Dave Upton would also recommend using the Outlaw to power the main channels, especially the front three, instead of having the receiver power them and having the Outlaw power Atmos, which I suspect is what you mean by "additional channels". I have a feeling you'll fight me on that suggestion, but maybe Dave can convince you.
You gave up on me too. Perhaps, if I update my Yamaha 3060 receiver in a couple of years, I might buy a pre-amp/processor along with another amp to power my Atmos channels instead of a new receiver. I'll have to evaluate cost versus improved performance. I probably won't notice much improvement with having my Atmos channels powered by an amp instead of a receiver. However, I'm not sure I can say the same thing for having a pre-amp/processor versus of a receiver.Good luck with that, Dave.
I gave up on that suggestion with both Ron and Sam.
Good luck with that, Dave.
I gave up on that suggestion with both Ron and Sam.
I think it all comes down to whether you have heard a really good amp or not. It's not going to change the sound itself, but bass will be tighter, transients will be sharper and anyone with good hearing can easily tell the difference.Nothing I have ever heard has convinced me it is worth the exorbitant cost. With 11 speakers to power now it is even less likely. Hell I won't ever go with an outboard amp for Atmos, even that is a PITA IMO.
Nothing I have ever heard has convinced me it is worth the exorbitant cost. With 11 speakers to power now it is even less likely. Hell I won't ever go with an outboard amp for Atmos, even that is a PITA IMO.
In the long run, separates will be cheaper.
Most likely but that wasn't my reason for going with them. My reason was performance. With a medium to large dedicated room [mine is 3150 cubic feet] I doubt anyone here would disagree. My position is "you can't take it with you" so I'm always looking for upgrades that will add true discernible value. In other words, I want the best performance I can afford. That's why I switched to separates and I've never looked back.