2007 at the Box Office

Discussion in 'Movies' started by TerryRL, Nov 2, 2006.

  1. MikeRS

    MikeRS Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2002
    Messages:
    1,326
    Likes Received:
    1
    "300" a smash?

    WATCHMEN HERE WE COME.
     
  2. Steve Christou

    Steve Christou Long Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    15,483
    Likes Received:
    311
    Location:
    London, England
    Real Name:
    Steve Christou

    Sin City was successful? Austin Powers Goldmember did $73m in it's opening weekend. Considering the internet hype and fan fervor I expected Sin City to breeze past $100m at the US box office. Van Helsing did a lot more and no one liked it (or so it seemed). [​IMG]
     
  3. TerryRL

    TerryRL Producer

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2001
    Messages:
    3,977
    Likes Received:
    0
    Before "Sin City", director Robert Rodriguez's biggest hit movies all came from the "Spy Kids" trilogy. "Sin City" wasn't expected to be a giant smash. It was expected to do well, but 'Sky Captain' had crashed and burned the year before and there were some doubts about whether or not "Sin City" would only appeal to the fans of Frank Miller's comic series. If we've learned anything over the last several years is that internet hype doesn't necessarily translate into huge box office.

    "Sin City" went on to become Rodriguez's biggest non-"Spy Kids" hit. Overall, the movie pulled in close to $159 million worldwide, while costing a modest $40 million to make. Add in the fact that the movie was also hugely popular on DVD, the Weinstein Co. is very anxious to do a follow-up ("Sin City: A Dame to Die For") because the first one made them some coin.

    As for "Van Helsing", director Stephen Sommers was coming off of the hugely successful 'Mummy' films (the two films earning nearly $850 million combined worldwide) and the movie was set the launch the summer 2004 season. The movie did pocket $300 million worldwide, but was deemed a disappointment because when you factor in marketing costs (more than $50 million), the movie cost Universal well over $200 million to make. Plans for a franchise of "Van Helsing" flicks were ultimately nixed by the studio.

    You can't really compare 'Goldmember' because it was the third film of a very lucrative franchise. "Sin City" was the (hoped for) first flick of a potential film series. Plus, 'Goldmember' and "Van Helsing" were PG-13 movies while "Sin City" earned an R rating.
     
  4. Malcolm R

    Malcolm R Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2002
    Messages:
    12,653
    Likes Received:
    550
    Real Name:
    Malcolm
    I have no idea what "300" is, but I really liked "Sky Captain" while I hated "Sin City" with infinite intensity. I'll have to find a trailer.
     
  5. TerryRL

    TerryRL Producer

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2001
    Messages:
    3,977
    Likes Received:
    0
  6. JediFonger

    JediFonger Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2006
    Messages:
    3,957
    Likes Received:
    24
    Real Name:
    YiFeng You
    terryl,

    have you watched the 1962 film, 'The 300 Spartans', from which Miller's comic book is based on? there's a few lines from in the trailer and in the comic that pays homage to the '62 version of the film, notably the arrows under the sun line.
     
  7. Ray H

    Ray H Producer

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2002
    Messages:
    3,481
    Likes Received:
    16
    Location:
    NJ
    Real Name:
    Ray
    I haven't seen The 300 Spartans nor do I know too much about the actual event, but Wikipedia told me that the arrows under the sun line is supposed to be a historical quote from whatever the heck they documented these things in back then. I've heard Miller used the movie as a big inspiration so that'd explain anything else. [​IMG]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dienekes
     
  8. Tino

    Tino Lead Actor
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 1999
    Messages:
    8,021
    Likes Received:
    1,630
    Location:
    Metro NYC
    Real Name:
    Valentino
    I think 300 will be a boxoffice disappointment. I want to see it, but I don't think the general public will bite much.
     
  9. JediFonger

    JediFonger Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2006
    Messages:
    3,957
    Likes Received:
    24
    Real Name:
    YiFeng You
    in terms of historical accuracy (with regard to the events surrounding the battle), the 1962 version should have a lot of the goodies from the book Gates of Fire as well. both the comic book and the new movie is a much more dramatized (deranged/disfigured monsters) and fantastical. i expect entertainment, not accuracy.

    in that respect, the 62 version was a bit dry. there were also a lot of OVERT Christian themes (lingering from the 50's conservative model), like no pre-marital sex, what should a good Christian do, etc. ironically, it takes place within a pagan cultural, anyway....
     
  10. Colin Jacobson

    Colin Jacobson Producer

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2000
    Messages:
    5,894
    Likes Received:
    479

    Yeah, I don't expect this one will be much bigger than Sin City. It seems like another one of those movies that excites the Internet fanboys but doesn't get much reaction from the rest of the world...
     
  11. Tino

    Tino Lead Actor
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 1999
    Messages:
    8,021
    Likes Received:
    1,630
    Location:
    Metro NYC
    Real Name:
    Valentino
    I doubt it will reach SS's numbers.
     
  12. JediFonger

    JediFonger Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2006
    Messages:
    3,957
    Likes Received:
    24
    Real Name:
    YiFeng You
    well it's one of those things that we'll have to see =^).

    it's like borat. who knew it was going to be the phenomenon it became? i think the marketing/promotion took on a life of its own, so hopefully the cast/crew of 300 will think of somn. perhaps they should goto interviews nearly constume-less like they are in the movie (if they're still in the same shape).
     
  13. TerryRL

    TerryRL Producer

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2001
    Messages:
    3,977
    Likes Received:
    0
    JediFonger,

    I have not seen that film, but thanks to your recommendation, Netflix is sending it to me tomorrow. I didn't even know that there was a '62 version of the movie. Thanks for the 411.

    As for the '07 version, I think if the movie has a strong opening (something north of $20 million) and benefits from solid word-of-mouth, that it has a decent shot at coming close to the numbers posted by "Sin City". At least, that's what I'm hoping for if the movie turns out to be nearly as good as the comic its based on.
     
  14. JediFonger

    JediFonger Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2006
    Messages:
    3,957
    Likes Received:
    24
    Real Name:
    YiFeng You
    terry, thx =D. i dunno if you live near a metropolitan but if you do and your local public library system is decent, you can actually borrow SD-DVD's for free or minimal fee (.4-$1) [​IMG]. that's what i did =D. i even used the internet to do the reservation. so... in a way, when i pay my local state taxes, i'm already paying for 'taxflix', but people aren't taking advantage of it. there's a ton of goods in your local pub library. that's why i never subscribe to netflix anymore. the library's got the latest blockbuster and far-reaching classics and growing. i'm already paying for it.
     
  15. TerryRL

    TerryRL Producer

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2001
    Messages:
    3,977
    Likes Received:
    0
    Unfortunately, the closest library to me (one of my city's smaller branches) has a really lame selection. Netflix is just far more convenient for me.
     
  16. JediFonger

    JediFonger Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2006
    Messages:
    3,957
    Likes Received:
    24
    Real Name:
    YiFeng You
    what's that old saying, don't judge a book by its cover [​IMG]. if you DO live in a metropolitan city that invests in .edu (like top10 city in US), it doesn't matter if your local brand is large or small. they are all linked to a larger network of libraries where they can transfer material back and forth. that's where online infrastructure comes in. the way i do is i que it up like netflix via the library network's web online UI with my library card, and the library network emails me when my book/DVD/CD/any media is ready for pickup at the library. my lib is just a 5min. walk away. with the combined borrowing power of the library network there's a lot more than you tiny branch =D. it doesn't hurt to investigate. it might just save you $ on that netflix subscription =D.
     
  17. TerryRL

    TerryRL Producer

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2001
    Messages:
    3,977
    Likes Received:
    0
    Don't you dare take my Netflix away from me!

    [​IMG]

    I'll look into chief. Thanks for the info.

    Here's a DVD question, with Pirates 2 dominating both the box office and DVD sales charts, do you think that Pirates 3 will pull off the same feat for '07? Or will "Shrek the Third" prove too tough to overcome?
     
  18. Adam_S

    Adam_S Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2001
    Messages:
    6,281
    Likes Received:
    113
    Real Name:
    Adam_S
    Pirates had four years of pent up demand. A lot of people don't even yet know a sequel is coming in may and not in two years (I'm sure the Superbowl will change that) Shrek and Spidey will be benefitting from more demand. I think Shrek will vary the most from the gross of its number two performer. I'd say Spidey will take the year's box office Crown but Pirates will be number two, Shrek in third and Harry Potter in fourth. Pirates and Spidey will benefit from a finish the trilogy boost while Shrek may lose a little money from sequelitis (which means it doesn't have the sort of 'completed' arc that Spidey and Pirates will benefit from and that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows will benefit from in 2009 or 2010.
     
  19. Jake Yenor

    Jake Yenor Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2005
    Messages:
    188
    Likes Received:
    0
    I suspect Blades of Glory will be the first real big hit of 2007. Will Ferrell is box office gold when he does a traditional comedy these days.
     
  20. Jonathan

    Jonathan Second Unit

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 1998
    Messages:
    465
    Likes Received:
    0

    And people say that Hollywood has run out of ideas. [​IMG]
     

Share This Page