Sony Unveils Dolby Vision Capable UHD BD Player and 4K HDR OBA Receiver

Sony Electonics continues its announcements today to include further CES showstoppers in the form of the company’s first 4K Dolby Vision capable UHD Blu-ray player, the UBP-X700, and the 4K HDR 7.2 channel receiver, the STR-DH790.

The UBP-X700 player will support Dolby Vision and HDR10 (both via firmware update in the summer of 2018) to deliver what the company claims will be ‘ground-breaking detail, color and brightness’, and will offer 4K streaming services from content providers, including Netflix, Amazon Prime Video and YouTube. The UBP-X700 will also support video and music formats, such as MP4, DSD, FLAC, and others.

Meanwhile, the STR-DH790 receiver will be capable of passing through Dolby Vision and HDR10 ‘without any loss’. The 7.2 channel receiver will also support Dolby Atmos and DTS:X in a 5.1.2 setup, adding immersive audio thrills to the menu.

The Sony STR-DH790 completely envelops the audience in sound with Dolby Atmos® and DTS:X™ support. (PRNewsfoto/Sony Electronics)

Sony has been taking some strides to enhancing the lifestyle credentials of its products, in terms of both design and ergonomics, and these two additions are expected to be no exception. The UBP-X700 and STR-DH790 will sport ‘thinner and more compact’ bodies ‘that will seamlessly fit into any home’. Designed with ‘the average living room in mind’, the new receiver will include the Advanced D.C.A.C. (Digital Cinema Auto Calibration) speaker setup system. Like the embedded Audyssey systems of competitors’ models, a plug-in microphone is used in conjunction with a series of test tones to achieve appropriate speaker levels, based on their placement and the room’s attendant acoustical properties.

The UBP-X700 will be available later this month, while the STR-DH790 should hit store shelves in the spring, and all products in the new line (which includes the STR-DH790, STR-DH590 and STR-DH190 receivers), can be ordered from Sony authorized retailers, as well as Amazon and Best Buy. Pricing on all units is yet to be announced.

If you’re going to CES, Sony Electronics can be found on Booth #17300, and more information on the company’s show offerings can be accessed at www.sony.com/ces. Please let us know here on the forum if you get a chance to stop by the Sony exhibits – the Dolby Vision performance will hopefully be something to whet appetites.

 

 

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  1. Martin Dew

    Sony Electonics continues its announcements today to include further CES showstoppers in the form of the world's first 4K Dolby Vision capable UHD Blu-ray player, the UBP-X700, and the 4K HDR 7.2 channel receiver, the STR-DH790.

    It's not the world's first UHD player with Dolby Vision. Oppo's had Dolby Vision support for many months.

    1. Mr Martin, may I ask 1minute of your wisdom?

      Despite the HDTV and and 4K technologies, and the HDR, I notice a strange thing in terms of image contrast, about of pleasant feeling of lustrous image, and not thing like contrast ratio itself.

      Do you remamber when DVD arrive, got more popular, and the good editions started with new transfer in progressive scans, from good hi end telecine machines, better color correction than the usual TV tapes of movies we were used ?
      It looked very nice on good CRT TVs, like sony trinitron flat screen. It was great for the time. But when the first PC DVD kits arrive, using Power DVD, and we noticed that the image on computer CRT monitor did never looked like on TV in terms of contrast. It lloked faded, dark in shadows, and no matter what adjust setting we tried on Power DVD, like contrast, brightness, saturation, the image never looked good like in a CRT TV, cause the brightness adjust made the image whitish (like airbrushed transparent paint over), without density, and the contrast adjust would just create clipped highlights and crushed shadows. There was no way to get a pleasant contrast from a DVD played of a CRT TV, by using a computer CRT monitor in a PC DVD kit.

      Later someone told me there was a difference from a CRT computer monitor compared to a CRT TV, like one was designd for high contrast signal, and the other designed to high contrast signal. So a TV and a computer monitor, in the CRT era (before LCD start to domain market) would never be look like, one to anotehr, for watch good quality DVD films.

      But today, since LCD TVs and LCD computer monitor dominated the market, this difference is not more like before. I try the best image from a DVD or Blu ray on a computer LCD monitor and in a LCD TV, and both have the same limitations, very similar contrast, after trying the best settings for both.
      The LCD TVs got many of the negative aspects from the PC DVD kit watched on PC monitor had. It get fadded unless you push contrast and kill highlights and shadows details. For me this its really very sad, and I have no patiece for watching LCD TVs, prefering a CRT despite be 480 resolution.
      How and why this happened, this “homologation of contrast standart” between computer screen and TV screens ? Why they choosed a contrast standart that would create problems for watrching films on TV, causing the killing of dynamic range by destroying highlifgts and shadow details, while CRT TVs did not destroyed like that ?

      For me this is so evident… I don’t know why people did not complained…
      Now they created the HDR… but for me HDR mostly just tries to fix a problem that was created while introducing LCD TVs with a contrast standart thay lead highklights and shadows details to be killed. The industry tried to create video transfer more glossy, to try compensate the faded basic look of LCD TV. But even so all LCD TVs have very poor dynamic, unless we adjusted it to have faded look, or unless you have HDR.

      All this and people stay silent… Why peole are so tolerant with the loss of good contrast and good dynamic from CRT times?
      I bet even OLED TVs have some this problem, due the new contrast standart, result from the homologation of standarts between computer monitors and TVs. But all OLED models I saw on stores was running HDR videos, so I need to see it again, running a non HDR video, to be sure.

  2. Scott Merryfield

    It's not the world's first UHD player with Dolby Vision. Oppo's had Dolby Vision support for many months.

    Supposedly this player will not have DV support upon release, but will get it via a future firmware update. At this point in the product cycle, that's pretty lame, IMO. I wouldn't buy one until the firmware is actually released and has been in the field for awhile to vet out the bugs.

    Edit: According to the full specs, this new model supports SACD, but there is no mention of DVD-Audio.

    At least my Oppo 203 supports Dolby Vision.;)

  3. Scott Merryfield

    It's not the world's first UHD player with Dolby Vision. Oppo's had Dolby Vision support for many months.

    Supposedly this player will not have DV support upon release, but will get it via a future firmware update. At this point in the product cycle, that's pretty lame, IMO. I wouldn't buy one until the firmware is actually released and has been in the field for awhile to vet out the bugs.

    Edit: According to the full specs, this new model supports SACD, but there is no mention of DVD-Audio.

    At least it supports 3D, which the most recent player from Samsung doesn't.

  4. Brad here. I was a little excited to see this release but I think I'll stick to my incoming Oppo. Which I'll order up once our move is complete later this month.

    Plus one more month's worth of points on my CC and I can buy it for free.

  5. Robert Crawford

    At least my Oppo 203 supports Dolby Vision.;)

    I may save up my Amazon credit card points during 2018 and apply them late in the year towards an Oppo, as well. We'll see if any other purchase attracts my gaze between now and then.

    I would still want to keep my old Oppo 980H DVD player in the same rack. I think Oppo supports multiple IR remote codes. My other option would be the new Panasonic player, but it lacks SACD and DVD-Audio support and will not have Dolby Vision upon initial elease, but instead added later via a firmware update (just like the Sony). Panasonic does support multiple IR remote codes with its players, so I could leave my exiting Panny BD player in the same rack, as well. Sony players do not support multiple IR codes.

    In case anyone wonders why I keep an old BD and DVD player in my main equipment rack, I usually have current TV shows we are watching loaded in them and use the UHD player for movies of all formats that we watch. That way I do not need to swap out discs as much. Right now the Oppo DVD player has a Married… With Children disc loaded, while the Panny BD player has a Firefly disc. I have the space in the rack, and already own the players, so why not use them?

  6. Alberto_D

    Mr Martin, may I ask 1minute of your wisdom?

    Despite the HDTV and and 4K technologies, and the HDR, I notice a strange thing

    You’ve got two threads on this already. Stop trolling other threads, especially product announcements.

  7. You moderator can delete my post that looks repeated.
    Sorry for the posts if you find it annoying. In other the other thread I promissed to be more positive to deserve a fine debate in this friendly educaetd forum atmosphere.
    I'm not a troll, and I will proove, with better posts.

    But I was really very curious if the standart of contrast was changed or not.

    I will get better for this comunity, I promisse.

    DaveF

    You’ve got two threads on this already. Stop trolling other threads, especially product announcements.

  8. DaveF

    Still wondering what an OBA Receiver is?

    And why is Sony’s numbering going backwards from last year’s x800 to the new x700?

    Don't know what OBA stands for, but I assume the backwards numbering for this model is because of the inferior construction of the new X700. It's more in line with Sony's inexpensive, disposable BD players they came with later in that technology run. Maybe they will eventually announce a higher end box to replace the X800 — or they could just be abandoning the higher end market already.

  9. Sorry for the late reply, Dave F and Scott: 'OBA' means 'object based audio', as opposed to channel-based audio, and is the encompassing term for Dolby Atmos and DTS:X (or Auro-3D). I thought it was common parlance on the forum, but will refrain from using it in headlines moving forward.

  10. Scott Merryfield

    In case anyone wonders why I keep an old BD and DVD player in my main equipment rack, I usually have current TV shows we are watching loaded in them and use the UHD player for movies of all formats that we watch. That way I do not need to swap out discs as much. Right now the Oppo DVD player has a Married… With Children disc loaded, while the Panny BD player has a Firefly disc. I have the space in the rack, and already own the players, so why not use them?

    Off topic but this is the main reason I started using Plex a few years ago. I get the DVD and put it on my server. Then I can watch what I want and feel free to change my mind 10 minutes later without getting off the couch. 🙂

  11. I have owned a number of piece from Sony and have loved what I have owned, from a flagship ES dvd/SACD/CD player to a 3 chip LCD HDTV and a blu-ray player and a few other things over the years. And while I am looking to upgrade my PIoneer Elite SC-05 to something updated with 4K switching and decoding like Dolby Atmos and DTS-X. Over the years I am just not impressed with the receivers Sony has offered. I like the minimalist clean look of the Sony but that for me is where it stops. Oh sure it is nice to have 8 Ethernet ports on the back but not really necessary in my honest opinion. Not a big fan of there surround fields and have not been crazy about the amp section. At this time I do not see a Sony receiver being the heart of my home theater.

  12. I should have the X700 in tomorrow. Wanted to try its streaming and UHD playback out, since I loved the X800. Now that they are adding DV, not bad for a $249 MSRP. Looks like they have gone back to their 2014 and 2015 small box styling, as opposed to the current lead weight larger UHPH1 and X800.

    According to @Robert_Zohn the DV update on the X700 may be sooner than Summer, which is what was reported originally.

  13. gadgtfreek

    I should have the X700 in tomorrow. Wanted to try its streaming and UHD playback out, since I loved the X800. Now that they are adding DV, not bad for a $249 MSRP. Looks like they have gone back to their 2014 and 2015 small box styling, as opposed to the current lead weight larger UHPH1 and X800.

    According to @Robert_Zohn the DV update on the X700 may be sooner than Summer, which is what was reported originally.

    I will be interested to read your impressions, Jason. Specifically, whether you experience any freeze-ups with UIHD discs on this player — my X-800 did this for the 3rd time a few days ago. Also, how the upconversion of BDs and DVDs compares with the X-800. I'm not really interested in the streaming capabilities, as I use other devices for that functionality.

    Personally, I would not drop any money on this player until Sony actually delivers a Dolby Vision firmware that works with current, non-Sony displays. However, I am glad there is at least one guinea pig out there we can learn from. 😉

  14. Scott Merryfield

    Personally, I would not drop any money on this player until Sony actually delivers a Dolby Vision firmware that works with current displays. However, I am glad there is at least one guinea pig out there we can learn from. 😉

    His screen name says it all.:)

  15. Scott Merryfield

    I will be interested to read your impressions, Jason. Specifically, whether you experience any freeze-ups with UIHD discs on this player — my X-800 did this for the 3rd time a few days ago. Also, how the upconversion of BDs and DVDs compares with the X-800. I'm not really interested in the streaming capabilities, as I use other devices for that functionality.

    Personally, I would not drop any money on this player until Sony actually delivers a Dolby Vision firmware that works with current, non-Sony displays. However, I am glad there is at least one guinea pig out there we can learn from. 😉

    I did some looking at timelines.

    First DV Mediatek chip was June-Jul 2016. Knowing the way Panny used to operate as explained by an employee in the know, no way that chip was in the 2017 X800 design or with the X1 Extreme on the displays which came out on the ZD9 late 2016 and 2017. Oppo held out and waited on it for the 203, and then rushed (too early) to market.

    Now you have Sony tv's that launched in 2017 that cannot handle DV internally, they need the source device to do it. The X700 was seen at CES sending DV to 2017 displays… Tells me the X700 prob has the first MT DV chip in it that did not make it into the X800. I mean it has to be able to process it for the 2017 Sony displays, especially if it was working at CES.

    Now, moving forward, MT released another version in Jul 2017, for HLG, HDR10, and DV, compatible with Android. So, looking at the lack of fanfare from Sony at CES with regards to displays, I wonder if the next line won't be geared around the Mid 2017 MT chip and behave a little more as expected. Might see new displays and a new UHD player announced later in the year at the Sept event.

    Of course, I could be 100% wrong too…

  16. Don't know if I posted in this thread earlier but now I am looking at the Sony UBP-X700 as my firsk 4K Blu-ray player (still considering Oppo 203 despite shutdown announcement).

    Either would be paired with a new Vizio 75" M-Series (or maybe a 2017 model P-Series since the price on those have dropped considerably). Both models are supposed to support HDR-10 and DV.

    Might just buy a second player for my Vizio 50" UHD set (bedroom TV) which didn't come with either HDR-10 or DV.

    Advice welcome.

  17. Scott Merryfield

    I will be interested to read your impressions, Jason. Specifically, whether you experience any freeze-ups with UIHD discs on this player — my X-800 did this for the 3rd time a few days ago. Also, how the upconversion of BDs and DVDs compares with the X-800. I'm not really interested in the streaming capabilities, as I use other devices for that functionality.

    Personally, I would not drop any money on this player until Sony actually delivers a Dolby Vision firmware that works with current, non-Sony displays. However, I am glad there is at least one guinea pig out there we can learn from. 😉

    Make that two guinea pigs . My UBP-X700 went into action on Aug 3rd.
    More info to come.

  18. Kyrsten Brad

    Make that two guinea pigs . My UBP-X700 went into action on Aug 3rd.
    More info to come.

    Good luck with your new Sony, Brad. I hope it works out well for you.

    I plan on passing on the X-700, though. Instead, I am looking at the Panasonic UB820 as potentially my next player. However, it won't be until after a firmware update providing Dolby Vision support is released.

  19. Well here's how it went with my first ever 4K presentation on the new setup with the 4K edition of Grease (1978). Note I did have the region-free mods done by 220 Electronics where I bought the player. So for blu-rays & DVDs, I now have two region-free players.

    Maybe it was due to my inexperience with 4K players but the first thing I got was the intro "blue screen" detailing in about 100 languages how I should be using a 4K capable system (which I was). Funny thing was this screen was lasting forever and I was thinking something was stuck. A disc eject & re-insert seemed to solve the problem and the disc started up. Of all my subsequent 4K presentations, this long blue screen only happened on this disc. Other discs displayed the same basic message but only in English and didn't last long at all.

    As I mentioned on the Grease 4K thread, PQ seemed a bit soft with some scenes but mostly razor sharp. Still enough to notice and wonder if I should seek a replacement disc.

    Subsequent presentations with other movies so far (Mamma Mia (2008), Thor-Ragnarok (2017)) were 4K laser sharp and I was very happy with the new setup….that is until I found the light leak on the left hand side of the new Vizio P75 (replacement from Costco is on its way). More details later in the Vizio P75 thread.

    My first blu-ray presentation with the Sony UBP-X700 was Cinderella Liberty (1973) from Twilight Time. I wanted to see how well the X700 upscaled. I got a laser-sharp Blu-ray presentation but I'll still have to run a comparison with my Sony BDP-7200 blu-ray player for this film. I did so enjoy the movie though and will be writing my own review to post, preferably wait until RAH posts his AFWA and dove-tail onto that.

    I'll say so far, so good and sometime in the not-too-distant future, another region-free X700 for the bedroom TV (Vizio M50, 4K w/o HDR or DV).

  20. Kyrsten Brad

    Maybe it was due to my inexperience with 4K players but the first thing I got was the intro "blue screen" detailing in about 100 languages how I should be using a 4K capable system (which I was). Funny thing was this screen was lasting forever and I was thinking something was stuck. A disc eject & re-insert seemed to solve the problem and the disc started up. Of all my subsequent 4K presentations, this long blue screen only happened on this disc. Other discs displayed the same basic message but only in English and didn't last long at all.

    You should not be getting that message if your equipment is HDR capable.

    What is your X700 connected to? It should be connected directly to the TV on a HDCP 2.2 compliant HDMI input, bypassing the receiver. This cuts down on the possibility of handshake issues that could be caused by the receiver, even if it says it's 4K and HDR capable. If it is running through the receiver, is there any video processing turned on inside the receiver? If so, that should be turned off.

    Is HDR Output in the Screen Settings menu on the X700 set to Auto or Off? I know the Vizio P-series supports HLG, HDR10, and Dolby Vision), so it should be set to Auto.

    How is the input configured on the TV and and output on the receiver? There should be something along the lines of "Enhanced 4K HDMI signal format" turned on. If that is turned off or set to "Standard," then that is also a reason you could be getting that message.

  21. Todd Erwin

    You should not be getting that message if your equipment is HDR capable.

    What is your X700 connected to? It should be connected directly to the TV on a HDCP 2.2 compliant HDMI input, bypassing the receiver. This cuts down on the possibility of handshake issues that could be caused by the receiver, even if it says it's 4K and HDR capable. If it is running through the receiver, is there any video processing turned on inside the receiver? If so, that should be turned off.

    Is HDR Output in the Screen Settings menu on the X700 set to Auto or Off? I know the Vizio P-series supports HLG, HDR10, and Dolby Vision), so it should be set to Auto.

    How is the input configured on the TV and and output on the receiver? There should be something along the lines of "Enhanced 4K HDMI signal format" turned on. If that is turned off or set to "Standard," then that is also a reason you could be getting that message.

    I'll definitely take a look at what you've suggested here but I can tell you what my initial setup is.

    The X700 is connected thru my AVR (Denon 2000x) on which I can set specific inputs for signal pass-through which is what I've set up for the X700. Signal seems to be good, the Denon doesn't do any video processing with the input set to pass-through but audio processing is still done.
    I did try a direct connection to the TV but that seemed to make no difference. Haven't had a chance yet to check the other settings but once I get home, I'll definitely take a look.

  22. Your Denon 2000 receiver is an older model. According to Denon's website, it is capable of 4K video pass thru, but there is no mention of Dolby Vision support. If it cannot support DV pass thru, you will need to use both HDMI outputs from the Sony player – – HDMI 1 directly to your display, and HDMI 2 to the Denon for audio only. Also, make sure you are using certified high speed 18Gbps HDMI cables – – the certification is important. Monoprice makes very inexpensive certified cables, available both directly through their website and via Amazon.

  23. Scott Merryfield

    Your Denon 2000 receiver is an older model. According to Denon's website, it is capable of 4K video pass thru, but there is no mention of Dolby Vision support. If it cannot support DV pass thru, you will need to use both HDMI outputs from the Sony player – – HDMI 1 directly to your display, and HDMI 2 to the Denon for audio only. Also, make sure you are using certified high speed 18Gbps HDMI cables – – the certification is important. Monoprice makes very inexpensive certified cables, available both directly through their website and via Amazon.

    Well Scott, a BIG Thanks to you and David Willow as y'all pretty much confirmed what I suspected, that my older Denon won't fully pass the signal, specifically any HDR10 or DV information to the TV. Which means that sometime in the near-nottoodistant- future, I'll be upgrading my AVR unit. I've had my eye on two Denon models, the Denon AVR-X3400H and the AVR-X4400H depending on what I'm "allowed" to spend. I'd be quite happy with the X3400H and save about $400 according to Amazon prices. I may however check out someone like 220 Electronics or Bombay Electronics if they offer a decent Military Veterans discount like 220 did with my new UHD Blu player.

    I did notice that my Sony X700 had two UHD HDMI outputs on it and now you've explained how I could wire up my Viz P75 so I can get the full benefits of HDR10/DV processing and keep my 7.1 sound system until I upgrade the AVR. Didn't have that hookup earlier so it will be interesting to see how my UHD Blu of Grease (1978) comes out (I was a tad disappointed with some of them PQ "soft spots") . I'll get that done after our family reunion this coming weekend.
    Oh and I just purchased a new Monoprice cable off Amazon. My current cables (new UHD cert cables) would work but nice to have a certified Monoprice carrying the signal load to the TV.

    One little oddity here on my Home Theater system which will be interesting with the new setup. Some background info first, my HT is set up for two distinct configurations. One is the Simple Setup for my wife and her mom when she comes over. I use this for all cable TV stuff and on this I simply have the cable box hooked directly to the TV. This setup does not incorporate the AVR but I still retain my Vizio Sound Bar setup which only works with the simple setup.
    The other of course is my AVR-Centric setup which I use for UHD Blu player, Blu-ray players, DVD player, online streaming and (for laughs) the ol VHS player. My lovely wife doesn't want to muck around with the AVR when she's watching HGTV, Fox News or whatever.

    What makes this kinda funny is now with the new setup on the UHD Blu player, I'd be able to use both the AVR sound system and the Vizio Sound Bar. Haven't tried it yet but I'm betting when I do, it will have some sound sync issues (creating that weird echo I so remember from my boyhood days at the old theaters). I can always power down the sound bar so no worries there.

    I'll keep you posted.

  24. Scott Merryfield

    If it cannot support DV pass thru, you will need to use both HDMI outputs from the Sony player – – HDMI 1 directly to your display, and HDMI 2 to the Denon for audio only. Also, make sure you are using certified high speed 18Gbps HDMI cables – – the certification is important. Monoprice makes very inexpensive certified cables, available both directly through their website and via Amazon.

    UPDATE: Started out by adding a new Monoprice certified cable to the Sony X700. Used that cable for a direct link to the Vizio P75 and did a separate cable (new as well) from the X700 to the AVR. Nice that the X700 HDMI outputs are set up exactly for this.

    What a difference!!

    Especially with a new replacement 4K disc of Grease (1978).

    This setup should do nicely until I upgrade my AVR. Shucks even with my earlier Blu-ray players, this TV is Rockin.

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