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WKRP...Complete Series Coming Soon! (See Post #109)

Discussion in 'TV on DVD and Blu-ray' started by Frank Soyke, Jan 12, 2014.

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    That is a huge effort, Brian. I'm sure I speak for many here when I say "thank you" (which hardly seems adequate).
     
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    Just an FYI. Here are the artists on Shout's list that I was unable to match up with a song.

    Buddy Holly
    Evelyn ‘Chanpagne’ King
    Living Voices
    Jean-Luc Ponty
    The Sherbs
    Lauren Wood
    Neil Young

    So, there are seven holes in my list that could be filled if someone can identify what songs these folks had in the series and where.
     
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    You're quite welcome. Please go back and re-download the list. I found a few more errors that I have corrected as well as a song that I missed for Waylon Jennings.
     
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    "As Time Goes By" plays as underscore during Les' daydream, in which he and Bailey are parting ways during WWII, with Les heroically quoting Bogart's "hill of beans" speech from Casablanca. It is not a vintage recording, sounds contemporary (to 1980), featuring a pop male vocal (no idea who) with piano. Any decent recording of the song would work for the scene. That being said, IMO the scene would work with no underscore, although the nostalgic nod to Casablanca is touching.

    During Jennifer's daydream involving Cary Grant (who morphs into Les), a piano rendition of "Stardust" is heard as underscore.

    During Andy's daydream, what sounds to me like "The Love Theme from The Godfather" plays as underscore. I'm not 100% sure on that one, but the music sounds very Godfather-like; if not the actual love theme melody it sounds close to it as I immediately thought of it.
     
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    Thanks. I have updated my list to reflect those.
     
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    I don't think that this would be a problem. Several of the songs on the list I compiled are announced either by Johnny or Venus and only the first few seconds are heard. Sometimes not even enough to tell what the song actually is. So, they might be able to get away with claiming some other song with dogs barking is Pink Floyd. It would preserve the joke and the scene. As the scene appears on the Fox DVD set, it is pretty meaningless. Carlson just wanders into the booth, Johnny gives him a strange look and Carlson leaves. Pointless.
     
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    Yes, I do believe that in some syndicated versions of some episodes that the song announced is not the song that is played. I don't have an issue with this, if you only hear the first few seconds of the song. I'd say replace it. However, if the song continues to play softly and there is dialogue over the music, every effort should be made to keep the song so as not to edit or replace the dialogue. Pink Floyd's Dogs is a prime example of this. Also losing the song (Dogs) ruins a good joke in the scene.
     
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    I don't know that it's pointless. I still like the cut version of the scene. It's pretty funny even if it's cut. You could take Mr. Carlson's wandering around the booth and Johnny's reaction (or lack thereof) as just Mr. Carlson's not really fitting in among the cool people of the station. You know, his clueless-ness ?
     
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    If I'm not mistaken, there are three other artists on Shout's list that do not match up to a song (yet):

    Jackson BrowneFlyingEdwin Starr
     
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    Yep. You're right. Sorry about that. All of this has started to blur together.

    So, the list should be:

    Jackson BrowneFlyingBuddy Holly
    Evelyn ‘Champagne’ King
    Living Voices
    Jean-Luc Ponty
    The Sherbs
    Edwin Starr
    Lauren Wood
    Neil Young

    That's now 10 holes that can be filled if we can match up songs to the artists and figure out where they are located within the series. I'm guessing that these are during some of those dialogue heavy scenes where the song is playing but there is so much talking that you can't hear the song to figure it out.

    There were at least three of these same types of songs/scenes that I was able to figure out, but so far the rest I am stumped.
     
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    Brian, thanks so much for all your hard work on this issue. I've been looking into some of this music stuff as well and here's what one source says that differs from your Season 1 report:

    Pilot (Part 1): also includes "Dance, Dance, Dance" by Chic

    Hold-Up: also includes "Light Up The Sky" by Van Halen

    Love Returns: includes "Beast Of Burden" by The Rolling Stones

    I Do, I Do...For Now: the other Hoyt Axton song is "Jealous Man"

    Young Mister Carlson: The "Patton Theme" is performed by Jerry Goldsmith

    And now for my nit-pick of the day...on your list in the post above the artist is Evelyn "Champagne" King.
     
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    I'm kind of amazed that when they originally shot this series, they actually paid for licensed music that would be too buried in the dialog to even identify. I know song licensing was cheaper and easier back then, and they shot on tape instead of film to make room in the budget... but it seems to me like an unnecessary expense.

    Or, maybe they did use generic music and we don't know. Somebody should ask Hugh Wilson.

    (Speaking of which, does anyone know if he had any input on this set? I know that he was disappointed but diplomatic with the Fox set.)
     
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    Thanks. Some of those I did in fact find out about after I posted my season 1 list but I couldn't go back and edit it to add them in. I did provide the list as an attachment a few posts back. The corrections should be on that new list as well as some season 2 stuff I found out later.

    I have also corrected the misspelling of Miss Champagne King's name. Can't believe I missed that.

    Also the source I used said that the Van Halen song in Hold Up is Atomic Punk. I'll check both against the episode to make 100% sure.

    I've checked the episode Hold Up again and it is indeed Atomic Punk by Van Halen.
     
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    Apparently, in this day and age, PAL/SECAM/NTSC standards mean nothing, IIRC, due to recent technological inventions center around Blu-Ray and DTV/HDTV.
     
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    Brian Ward tweeted a photo of the WKRP set that was waiting for him in his office. Looks like they're on schedule and should be shipping soon. Hope to get mine sometime next week. Stay tuned!
     
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    Regarding the overall quality of the DVDs and the question of whether the episodes would be edited like the initial release, Shout responded this way:"We created our DVDs from the best available sources and have mastered them as true to their original quality as possible. As is the goal with all of our TV on DVD releases, we did not utilize any cut-for-syndication versions in this set. These are not the same versions that are currently being broadcast in syndication or that were used on the previous WKRP DVD set.”

    From: http://forums.previously.tv/topic/14812-the-mixing-board-wkrp-on-dvd/
     
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    Curious if this means we'll get a broadcast length 'Hoodlum Rock'. I believe the Fox discs had the syndie version.
     
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    Just curious - my pre-order email from Shout! gave an advance order estimated "street date" of 10-03-14. I'm assuming it's a typo and they really meant "10-09-14" but just curious if anyone else who pre-ordered got the same msg.

    Of course i would be pretty stoked to get it today and will let y'all know if I see it later but I'm assuming next week.
     
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    Yes, the Fox set used the syndicated version of Hoodlum Rock and A Date With Jennifer. I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that the original master tape for Hoodlum Rock was damaged years ago and the only full length version available is at the Museum of Television and Radio. Now this could all be just a big rumor. I certainly hope that it is. This will be one of the very first things that I will check out when I get my set and I will let everyone here know what I find out.
     
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    I'll soon find out. Mine has shipped!
     
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