Ok, Step 1. Get a Subwoofer Step 2. Get a Preamp and an amp Step 3. Upgrade to higher quality Speakers Step 1 is complete, moving on. I know i posted a thread about what preamp and amp to get i dont know how long ago, 4 or 5 months perhaps. But new things have come to light, new budget to be met, new stuff has come out etc. I didnt think i would end up spending so much on a subwoofer but blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda i did so my preamp and amp budget has gone down from what it used to be. Now the companies i know of are Rotel, B&K, Outlaw, Krell, that one that starts with a B, Parasound, Marantz and Anthem. I want a 7 channel system. I figure im gonna have these 8 ohm speakers until like 2006, so it seems to me the best way to go is the Outlaw 770. That one with 200x7 at 8, 300x7 at 4. Since all the amps i've looked at are 200 at 8 i might as well get the most cost effective one. Also, i have no idea on the MSRP or current price or what i can get used on any of the preamps/amps except for the Outlaws...which say on the site. If its a bad thing to have different amp and preamp companies let me know, but i dont want to get that outlaw preamp, it just doesnt cut it for me. But i have gotten used to the fact that no matter what im not gonna be able to see the screen of the preamp unless i run up to it. So, that Outlaw amp is what $1,800. That leaves only $2,200 left on a preamp. If anybody has a better solution then what i just said please do tell. I dont know the prices of any of the preamps so i dont know if they'd fit into my budget, but anything anybody can suggest that i can fit in there would be great. So far what has run through my head is: B&K Ref 50/Outlaw 770 Rotel RSP-1068/Outlaw 770 Those are just because i like what they have and how they look but i probably wouldnt be able to fit either of those in huh? Used perhaps, anybody know sites that are sellin any of those used. So that's all i got cookin, every store i've been is pretty much Reciever based so checkin them out kinda went out the window. I dont really need more then 200wpc cause my fronts power handling is 250 and my rears are 150, and i havent been able to find any amps that have more then 200 watts at 8 except krell. But i really want a kick ass preamp and im not saying only B&K or Rotel which by my like i wont even be able to afford in the first place. Do any of these preamps have screen controllers or something cause there panels are so damn small. I can read the volume on my Yamaha reciever from 15ft away but everything else is to hard to make out, and these screens look smaller and i cant find where they show there controllers on any of these sites. Im hoping once i get something more then 75 watts into my speakers that i'll decide i wont want new speakers, or atleast not until these are warn out. Also, whats the point of the Rotel RSP-1068 havin a screen on it like that.