I, like a lot of other people, am looking for modes in my next pre/pro to "expand" 2.0 through 5.1 sources to a 6.1 or 7.1 speaker set up. (Not music, just movies! ) Interesting observation: The Outlaw has the Cirrus Extra Surround mode for Dolby Digital, but not for DTS. But, the manual says that for DTS NEO:6, that "this mode can produce the rear surround info from a 5.1 source." So I thought, OK cool. But now I just read the Rotel manual. For the Rotel, DTS NEO:6 only works with 2 channel sources. "DTS NEO:6 is not used with DTS 5.1 digital sources and the button need not be pressed for those recordings." But, Rotel's XS mode *does* work with 5.1 DD *and* DTS sources. So... 2 versions of DTS NEO:6? And, from the Outlaw manual: "[Stereo] mode provides conventional 2 channel signals to the left and right front speakers only." I still think this is a mistake, that if the sub is configured as present along with the crossover frequency, that you get the sub too. (Not bypass mode, just stereo mode.) But they didn't change this in the new 1.2.5 manual even though I mentioned it in the "Manual" thread over in the 950 Saloon. The Rotel manual says: "Standard 2-channel stereo (left/right speakers only)- press the 2CH button." But then later on it says: "This is 'pure' stereo, using the front left and front right speakers (with or without subwoofer), with no surround channels and no center channel." So it is clear for the Rotel but not for the Outlaw. Anyone know for sure? Cheers!