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Discussion in 'Movies' started by dpippel, Dec 9, 2017.
I don’t blame you. There is no ASM3.
I still remember when I saw the 2002 Spidey for the first time - I left with such a big smile on my face because I really felt they'd nailed the character!
I'll go to my grave unhappy with the way they depicted the robbery prior to Uncle Ben's murder, and the organic webshooters always seemed lame, but otherwise I loved it.
(FWIW, I was fine with the shift to make MJ Peter's longtime crush. The way they handled it in the comics - with the tease how Peter avoided meeting MJ for so long - worked in the comics but obviously wouldn't work in the movies...)
I'll leave my observations and in depth discussion for post spoiler embargo, but suffice it to say FFH well exceeded my expectations (which were, admittedly, a bit on the low side) and catapulted it to the top of my Spider Man movie list (which isn't that big of a deal, I haven't really loved any of the other Spidey films). More impressively, it cracks my top ten MCU list. A couple of great set pieces, some big laughs with constant humor throughout. Pretty much everything here worked for me.
The MPAA has an interesting interview with production designer Claude Paré.
Didn't realize that all of Samuel L. Jackson and Jake Gyllenhaal's stuff was shot in the UK.
Are we still in the spoiler embargo period?
I think so.
Watched this last night. It was more enjoyable than the previous Tom Holland spidey movie. I still prefer the three Tobey Maguire movies to any of the new ones (and any future entries, he said ominously), probably always will. I'm a nostalgic person, Superman the Movie is still my favorite of that franchise and the first two Tim Burton Batman's rule over Chris Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy. [cue gasps]
3.5 out of 5.
One large groan about the post credits scene in new Spidey
Spoiler: post credits
it just didn't ring true to me that the alien Skrulls could impersonate Nick Fury so perfectly, his mannerisms, posture, walk, telling Peter "Bitch please you've been to space", getting annoyed about the voicemail etc okay Fury did seem a little bit more irritable than usual but otherwise - oh bitch please!
What I presume from watching Captain Marvel, the Skrulls
state they can can copy someone down to their DNA by merely looking at them. Furthermore, they can do this without requiring any physical contact. This presumably involves some sort of quantum entanglement. So yes, Talos would be able to mimic Fury on a granular level, mannerisms and speech patterns included.
Talos really didn’t mimic him all that well to me and it least one other of us in this topic.
He acted out of character right from the moment he appeared in the movie.
Also there was a lot of bits in the trailer that aren’t in the movie.
Spider-Man goofing around with the police.
Fury and Peter talking about the well being of Ned after fury tranquilled and Fury calling Peter Spider-Man at the same time.
I went again this morning and again loved it.
One new thing I noticed:
Spoiler: Final Tag
Why does "Maria Hill" refer to Nick Fury as "Nick" when they're alone? It happens a few times throughout the movie. I get why she would call him that when other people are present, but when it's just the two of them, that feels like it's just to throw us off who they actually are, and not because it's natural.
Also, speaking of the final tag...a bunch of people in the audience today walked out after the conclusion of the mid-credits tag, and completely missed the end end tag. I wanted to yell for them to stay because there was more but didn't feel comfortable doing that. Why do people leave Marvel movies before the very end anymore? Don't people know by now that there will be two tags? It's especially problematic for this film, because the tag relates to events that have occurred in this film, rather than just being setup for the sequel. You don't have the complete story if you don't stay. I get why people might leave Toy Story 4 before seeing the end studio logo, but I really don't get why anybody invested enough to go to a Marvel movie would leave before the end now. It's not like the existence of post-credits sequences on Marvel titles are a secret.
I figure if they're leaving before the post credit sequences, they probably won't remember what characters were up to at the end of a previous movie when they see the next one anyway.
They also may figure they can view the post credit stuff on Youtube. Or maybe this is their second viewing.
Or they don’t care. It’s not worth sitting through ten minutes of credits for 30 seconds extra story from their point of view.
Whenever I go to the theaters, there’s always a handful of people who leave after the main climax of a film but before the last scene has drawn to a close. And there’s always someone who leaves a couple songs before the end of a concert. They got what they needed out of their night out and what they were looking for out of it wasn’t the same as what you or I were looking to get.
Or they already saw the movie and didn't want to sit though the credits again just to see the post credit scenes. The second time I saw this film I left after the mid credit scene.
To me, the end credits tag is part of the movie and I wanted to see that again just as much as the rest of the movie. But, of course, I also stay through all the credits on every single movie I see in theaters whether there is a tag or not.
Also, an interview with Evan Jacobs, the supervisor of the 3D conversion:
Nice article, but it's a shame we'll likely have to jump through hoops to try and view it at home on blu-ray 3D. Looks like Amazon Germany is one of the only options announced so far (as per Sony's recent 3D strategy).
The hoop you jump through is to order it from Amazon.de, which has an English language site. This and all Amazons is available through the app.
The German site has the 3D version as a reg B.
Hope that isn’t accurate.
Something that's been bugging me. This might fall into the category of "don't think about it too hard because the movie doesn't work without it," but still.
Peter was dead until about, what, 20 minutes or so before Tony died? I didn't time Endgame, but there wasn't a lot of time between Peter's resurrection and Tony's death. All of the time between those two events was a big battle.
Nick Fury was also dead for the same amount of time as Peter. So:
When exactly in the MCU timeline did Tony leave the Edith glasses with Fury for Peter? He had no way of knowing whether they would succeed in bringing back the snap victims or not, so he didn't know for sure that Peter was going to come back. And why would Tony choose Fury to give this particular item to Peter, rather than Happy, who already had a relationship with Peter?