So I had a little time to kill during lunch time and stopped by a local HiFi Buys/Tweeter. I was not planning on buying anything, but just wanted to check and see if there was anything new I might have missed - fat chance given the level of knowledge. My dilemma is that I desperately want to upgrade my preamp. I also want Firewire so I wondered if maybe, just maybe a receiver could hold me over for a while. I listened to a Denon 3802 & 4802 vs. a Ref 30 and matching amp (200/ch). I listened to audio only since my main concern was lack of confidence in all reciever's rated wattage. I first listened to a nice jazz selection on the B&K and a pair of Vienna Accoustics speakers. Sounded good, very good. Then switched over to the 4802. Difference? Huge. Music was muddy and the power simply wasn't there on the receiver. I'm not trying to bash Denon as it could have just as easily been another make. The power difference was noticeable as well. While the receiver was rated at something like 125/ch vs. 200/ch some may say that of course I heard a difference, but remember the math and how much power it takes to make a substantial difference. And I also wasn't listening at extremely loud volumes either. I'm actually disappointed though since I was hoping I could live with a cheap interim replacement, but it looks like I will have to wait a little longer.