Mark Collins
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Thanks Sam for that Bob Iger quote. I had not read that until this morning.
One could argue the same about That Woman as well. Millionaire's songs happen to be superior (1965-1977 is the "do no wrong" era of the Sherman Bros IMO), and at least they are not constantly shoved down everyone's throat by the studio.Ejanss said:I never really felt like there was a moment where any of the Sherman songs had anything to do with what was happening, or vice versa; they just sort of tried to string them together.
Tommy Steele as Bert? Hmmm, I'll let that simmer for awhile while I play "I'll Always Be Irish" on my iPod, but Van Dyke and Tomlinson were put to much better use in their other Sherman Brothers musicals.Given the attention that Walt Disney himself lavished on [the film], it should have been his triumph, and it certainly was such as measured by the box office. Beneath its bright surface and cheerful songs, however, there was a lurking failure that was Disney's in his once strong role as story editor. [The film] had no story apart from the transformation of Mister Banks, the father of the children whom [that woman], the magical [sic] nanny, takes under her care; but David Tomlinson, who played the role, was a supporting actor, nothing more, too clearly confined by mannerisms and temperament to roles calling for a stuffy, easily ruffled Englishman. Disney wanted [that woman] herself at the center of the film, and so putting a strong actor—much less a difficult actor, someone like Rex Harrison—in Tomlinson's place was unthinkable; but without such an actor, the film could be only a succession of musical numbers held together by a very slim narrative thread. Mister Banks' transformation has no weight, a fact underlined by the very casual (and wholly unbelievable) manner in which he regains his job at a bank after he has been liberated by losing it. A centerpiece dance number on the rooftops has no strong dancer leading it; Dick Van Dyke hardly fulfills that role.Everywhere that Disney's hand is most evident, as in some of the casting and incidental "business," [the film] suffers from debilitating weaknesses. At the least, a question mark hangs over the casting of Van Dyke as Bert the chimney sweep—the role would have benefited from an actor such as Tommy Steele, who, like Andrews, had roots in British music-hall comedy. Bob Thomas told how Disney "made a habit of 'walking through' the sets after they had been built, searching for ways to use them. Bill Walsh [the film's principal writer and co-producer] described a visit by Walt to the Bankses' living room in search of reaction to the firing of Admiral Boom's cannon: 'Walt got vibes off the props. As he walked around the set he said, 'How about having the vase fall off and the maid catches it with her toe?' or, 'Let's have the grand piano roll across the room and the mother catches it as she straightens the picture frame.'" But the havoc supposedly caused by Admiral Boom's cannon—on a regular schedule!—is simply ridiculous. There is no reason to believe it would be tolerated in a well-ordered London neighborhood. Here, as elsewhere, [the film] is the sort of shallow fantasy that undermines its own premises.
(Uh, you could ask Travers, they were in the books?MatthewA said:What is the point of Admiral Boom or Uncle Albert?
MatthewA said:Ironically, it was Bill Walsh's idea to turn Millionaire into a musical in the first place; it was a book and then a play, and IIRC it was no less episodic there than on film. Walt took Walsh off the picture and put him on Blackbeard's Ghost. Perhaps with a revamped book, the musical version could work on the stage.
The "Fortuosity" opening leads you into so much of an entertaining idea of what you expect the movie to be, going in, that you sit there for the middle hour thinking "Gee, I wish I could have seen THAT movie, instead."Rob_Ray said:The first half hour is told from Tommy Steele's point of view. We see nothing that he doesn't see and he's constantly breaking the fourth wall by talking to us. It's his story and nothing happens that he isn't privy to.
Having never seen "Half a Sixpence" yet, I remember asking one time "Whatever happened to Tommy Steele?"Nobody quite knew--"Maybe his teeth ate him."Rob_Ray said:And, yes, Tommy Steele is an acquired taste. One that my mom never acquired when we dragged her to see this one back in '68. To her, he's nails on a blackboard. I'm glad she's never seen FINIAN'S RAINBOW!
Bert was in the books, too: in exactly one chapter, and he was not just a chimney sweep. He did other odd jobs. There was a lot of stuff from the books that didn't make the script of the movie. Remember Mrs. Corry? Even so, asking Helen Goff to give me a straight answer on anything would be an exercise in futility even if she were still alive. But does anyone else think a run on the bank would have made more sense if they'd kept the 1930s setting, since there actually were bank runs pretty regularly back then? How does one child's tantrum set off a bank run? Weak. That, the lack of sympathetic characters, and everything else I've discussed make the film completely unwatchable to me. She is the Regina George of Disney characters.Ejanss said:(Uh, you could ask Travers, they were in the books?
Over here, we're expecting a thunderstorm later, which is also "Mary Poppins"'s fault. )
My apologies for triggering any bad memories. However, the film did inspire me to put Auto Focus in my Netflix queue.ahollis said:Thanks for reminding me of SUPERDAD. I had hoped it was out if my mind forever.
It wasn't them. It was Card Walker's inability to cut a film with anything other than a hacksaw. He cut things that shouldn't have been cut while paying no attention to pacing. He's part of the reason the company almost went under. He's the one who said "what do you want to do, Roy, make Deep Throat?" to Roy E. Disney's suggestion of making something that doesn't follow the story structure of The Shaggy Dog to the letter (source: Storming the Magic Kingdom, page 15). He's the reason the two 70s hybrids have at least three different cuts each (and the cutting of the two Lesley & John musicals as well, source: Walt's People, Volume 8, pages 203, 206-207, and 245-247), and he tried to do the same to Splash (source: DisneyWar, page 47). He also paid little to no attention to detail in many cases with the films. 1976's Treasure of Matecumbe is another coulda-shoulda-woulda; it had an interesting concept and some good people in it (the less said about Joan Hackett's "Suthun" accent, the better), but the matte work is horrible. Absolutely horrible. Bill Anderson, the film's producer, knew it. But Walker refused to push back the release date to fix the opticals, so it went out that way and bombed. (Source: Walt's People, Volume 8, page 250) That might be a better candidate for a remake than the ones they have lined up.Ejanss said:the artistic problems with Tommy Steele and Fred MacMurray.
bryan4999 said:Does anyone know anything about this UK release of Aladdin? Is it legit?
http://www.amazon.com/Aladdin-Blu-ray-Scott-Weinger/dp/B00CCXL9OE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
How do you like the disc overall? Sound? Extras? Amazon says it's region free, that really true?Mark Walker said:It is legit. It has been out in the UK for some time along with 101 Dalmatians, Jungle Book, and a few others that were released much sooner in the UK. I have it. Image is fine. The only one I passed on was Tarzan due to reports of image-flickering. You might be able to get it a bit cheaper buying it from Amazon.co.ukhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Aladdin-Blu-ray-Region-Scott-Weinger/dp/B003ARSYOO/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1405006839&sr=1-2&keywords=aladdin
Johnny Angell said:How do you like the disc overall? Sound? Extras? Amazon says it's region free, that really true?
For 40+ years I've had little interest in seeing Song of the South, but it's getting to the point where I'm dying to watch it, just to be able to form my own opinion of it.