Letter Box movies on Wise Screen TV question.

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  1. Nick

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    What is the aspect Ratio for Letter box movie to fit perfectly on Wise screen TV.
    I saw them playing Epesode I on Wise screen TV at Tweeter but it still show black bar on top and bottom of the screen.
    Thanks.
     
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    I'm gonna take a shot here and say about 1.85:1 will have minimal if any matte bars showing. I believe the Phantom Menace was 2.35:1.
    Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
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    Wise screen, eh? I like it! [​IMG]
    I believe, with help from overscan, ratios between 1.66:1 and 1.85:1 will "fill" your screen. 1.77:1 for perfect fit, but it is unlikely you will notice any bars in the range above (and usually 1.77:1 is just for TV).
    [Edited last by PhilipG on November 03, 2001 at 12:50 PM]
     
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    Movies come in many different aspect ratios, 1.85:1 and 2.35:1 (which is what Episode 1 was shot in) are the most common. A wiDe screen television is 1.78:1, which is a good compromise between standard (1.33:1) and those 2 screen shapes
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    All 1.78:1 transfers (anamorphic) will fit perfectly on your 16:9 display.
    Ratios wider than 1.78:1 such as 1.85:1, 2.10:1, 2.20:1, 2.40:1, 2.55:1, and 2.76:1 will have larger borders.
    In my opinion, wide TV's should have been 2.0:1. 1.78:1 is not much wider than 1.33:1 and only adds 33% more resolution. 2.55:1 would have been even BETTER, but that would be one wide TV....
     
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    Better yet, I wish DVD had the ability to do a VARIABLE anamorphic squeeze. In other words, a 25% squeeze for 1.66, a 33% squeeze for 1.78 and 1.85 films, a 76% squeeze for 2.35 films and so on. That way, ALL films would make use of the full vertical resolution.
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    Well, went through my DVD collection. 90% of the movies I have are 2:35:1 ratio.
    That sucks. Can't get away from that black bar.
     
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    Nick, Nick, Nicky, Nickmeister, PLEASE tell me you were kidding about 2.35:1 sucking, otherwise, i'll have to slam ya! [​IMG]
    Here's what you do, make black mattes for your screen and attach them with velcro, when you watch a dvd at night with the light's off, all you'll see is an isolated 2.35:1 image. It really enhances night veiwing, trust me.
    But I love your variation on the term Wide-screen, Wise-screen, that's great!
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    Matthew : Accounting for a bit of overscan.. 1:66.1 to 1.85:1 films will fill almost all his screen. (but I'm sure you knew that..)
    OAR, and only OAR for me! Regardless of black bars..
     
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    Don't get me wrong. I hate P&S. All my movies are in WS. That black bars don't bother me at all. It would look nice if every fill up the whole screen you know what I mean.
    Guess you can't please everybody.
     
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    Nick, as I said above, give the mattes a try! A friend of mine has a 61" RP, and has made it a common practice to do this, and it's great! Thier's nothing like sitting in the dark, with nothing visible in the room except a big, glowing 2.35:1 image! I have a Sony VVega, and have to get the materials I need to make new ones, I had to throw my old mattes out when I got the VVega.
    Give it a shot, it's a real solution to your problem, and you'll love the results. [​IMG]
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