AlexJ
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I’ve actually seen it posted that RPGs aren’t what they used to be.. does anyone agree with that?
That's why I disliked Final Fantasy X. Sure they finally made the combat fast, but now you have to switch every character in just to get some experience (tedious!) and you watch the game more than you play.I respectfully disagree with most of you. I loved FFX, and I've played RPG's since the original Ultima and Wizardry on my Apple II.
I think the stories have gotten much better, the characters more complex, and the levelling systems much more dynamic (the sphere grid in FFX was one of the coolest things ever, IMO). Back in the day, you could completely ignore the story, let your characters level themselves up, and just play on. Not that that was a bad thing, but I think there have been vast improvements in the RPG world.
Oh, and Morgan, I respectfully disagree. I think the only way that new RPGs differ from old RPGs regarding their 'one ultimate baddy trying to take over the world' plots is that new RPGs make you wait half the game before you find out who it is . I imagine the next big advance will come when we don't find out until 3/4's of the way through...Mark, you my friend are in desperate need of playing:
Gothic
Morrowind
Neverwinter Nights
Baldurs Gate 2 Shadows of Amn
Planescape Torment
and if you you want the a really good dungeon crawl:
Icewind Dale 1 and 2
All PC games listed above (except for Morrowind which is available on the Xbox). These are RPG's that have really captured me more than any others. They all lack fancy FMV cinemas yet at the same time tell some truly phenominal stories through in game dialogue. All the while allowing you to create your character and choose what you want that character to be. Not have the game dictate that to you.
Planescape Torment is available for 9 dollars in most places and it is one of the absolute best RPG's made in past 10 years. It can almost be compared to a novel because you will do ALLOT of reading but the plot is more complex and interesting than 99% of the RPG's out there. This game is required playing by any person who truly considers themselves an RPG fan IMO. Its an essential game to the genre that is often overlooked for its big cousins Icewind Dale and Baldues Gate.
Baldurs Gate 2 is another must play. The combat engine is ridiculously diverse and enjoyableto experiment with. Almost RTS in nature yet retaining the D&D feel.The story is the absolute perfect blend of reading and action. The enormous cast of characters, thier inter-party relationships and thier overall relationship to you is what truly makes this game unique.
Morrowind, I'm completely biased about because I love the game. The absolute most open ended RPG to be created since the release of Daggerfall (prequel to Morrowind). Do what you want, when you want, however you want. The game has no linearity at all. you can literally go wherever you want and make your character what you want it to be. Astonishingly deep game (with a combat system that at times does leave a little to be desired).
Gothic, the most underrated PC RPG to be released last year. Came out of nowhere and is second only to MOrrowind in its open endedness. I call it Morrowinds little brother that could.(On its way to the Xbox next year folks)
On the console side of things some more recent titles I have enjoyed:
Xenogears
Vagrant Story
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Dragon Quest VII
Final Fantasy Anthology + Chronicles
Chrono Cross
Xenogears will always be one of my favorites because of its awe-inspiring story. One of those games that I simply could not put down until I saw the end. Final play time (of which I still have the memory card save was 104 hours)
Panzer Dragoon Saga. Go read the three page thread on Panzer Dragoon that Andre F started to get an idea why this game is so loved (and to get you hyped up for Orta). The combat system is still one of the most unique and enjoyable out there. (Now if we could just get rid of the random encounters.)
Whoever said that recent RPG's have lost thier "magic" you need to go and play Vagrant Story. More a hybrid action/RPG but deeper. I was drawn in by the mystical characters and kind of otherwordly feel of the game. The weapons creation system of course helped, considering how ridiculously deep it was.
FF Anthology and Chronicles is next. I truly am not a fan of recent FF games. FFX bored me to tears with the unending movie sequences and having to just sit there doing nothing for a majority of the 30+ hours that I gave the game to impress me. FF IX on the other hand was a good game that I actually go into and played. Don't know why that one captured me so but I guess it was just how cute Vivi (I think that was the name, cant remember its been awhile) was so cute. However the old FF games, namely 6 (III in the US) were old favorites of mine and A+C allowed me to experience them again.
Chronicles on the other hand allowed me to once again play Chrono Trigger. That one goes without saying.
So after all that, what am I saying? I don;t have a problem with the "cinematic" RPG's. These type of games have thier fans (Like Josh and Morgan above). Though I very much agree that the Squaresoft of today is at its best when it is NOT doing Final Fantasy and working on other more qaint projects. Either way there are plenty of alternatives out there new and old. Theres always room for improvement but I like the current state of RPG's personally. I've got a ton to still play! (Decides whether to get Suikoden 3 or not....)