Has anyone seen the "add on" Horn Rings?

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  1. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    I was surfing Ebay Home Audio a week or so ago and I came
    across someone selling what looked like the Horn Rings from
    a set of Advant Garde speakers. But these were actually
    made to retrofit to non Horns. They were finished in auto
    paints (green, red, silver, gold etc..) and looked like
    they were made out of die casted metal or some hard abs
    plastic or something.

    Has anyone else seen these before? I wonder what they do
    for the sound.. I would imagine they would kill near field
    off axis response but would gain you a couple more decibels
    of efficiency?
     
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    Don't have time to 'surf', got a link?

    GM
     
  3. Brett DiMichele

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    Greg,

    I didn't catch who made them and I have been looking and
    I can't find anything on them...
     
  4. are you refering to the oris horns at welborn labs?
     
  5. Brett DiMichele

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    Tony,

    No these are just the horn sections you see on speakers like
    the Osiris. They are meant to be retrofitted to non horn
    loaded speakers...

    I was just curious if anyone had seen them or better yet
    heard them installed on a speaker just out of curiosity.

    I have no idea who made them... Wish I could find that dang
    ebay ad!
     
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    Mihorn.com is the website, I was curious about them myself.
     
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    Greg,

    Thats them!
     
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    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Well,

    After reading thier website (Or barely being able to read
    it, I should say...) I would steer clear. There is much
    nonsense, hogwash and pure rubbish on thier site describing
    thier product and what it does for sound...
     
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    Since no dims of use seem to be available on the website we can't calculate approximately how much off axis BW each one is ~capable of controlling. They will definitely help, but if not incorporated into the design from the get-go will create a very uneven, though probably very lively, sounding FR.

    I've built in conical versions to reduce off axis response/aid in time alignment, so recommend the concept, if not these specifically.

    The prices seem reasonable, so why not try some and report back? [​IMG]

    GM
     
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    Greg,

    I didn't see the prices listed on the site I will have to
    check it out again later on.

    I am not looking to aile any defficiency in my speakers they
    sound absolutely fantastic as they are (so much that I spent
    12 hours on my day off just sitting back listening to music)

    But I am a habitual tweaker, I can never leave "good and
    well" alone.. And if something is cheap or free (DIY) then
    I am always eager to tinker..

    Perhaps they may be worth checking out, evaluating and if
    I don't care for them I could sell them on Ebay.. Or I
    could glue cardboard on one side and make them into flower
    pots [​IMG]
     
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    No, you wouldn't want to add them to the ARs, or most any pre-built design without completely redoing their XOs. These are best suited as part of a fresh, from scratch, design.

    That said, trying them on some cheap sealed design that only uses a cap for the tweeter will probably yield a much more lively sounding speaker that you can dial in 'close enough' by just trying different cap values. Who knows, might even get you hooked on stepping up to the next level of performance beyond the ARs. [​IMG]

    GM
     
  12. Brett DiMichele

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    Greg,

    Trust me I am allready working on the next level of
    performance. But I am not simply going from my AR9's to
    something like AV-1's (Honestly I don't believe that would
    be enough improvement for me) I don't think any tower
    design would yeild enough improvement for me as after
    careful tweaking and placement and equipment upgrades, my
    AR9's absolutely floor me with thier sound. I guess if ya
    can't hear them you can't believe me but they are nothing
    short of amazing for a commercial speaker.

    My DIY project will be Line Array's. It will be my first
    DIY speaker and I am going to make sure it's my last...

    Check out my other thread to see the direction I am going.

    (PS: MiHorn sells those things to "add on" to existing
    speakers.. I don't think the results would be stellar to
    say the least)
     

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