Has anyone seen the "add on" Horn Rings? (1 Viewer)

[Brett DiMichele]

I was surfing Ebay Home Audio a week or so ago and I came
across someone selling what looked like the Horn Rings from
a set of Advant Garde speakers. But these were actually
made to retrofit to non Horns. They were finished in auto
paints (green, red, silver, gold etc..) and looked like
they were made out of die casted metal or some hard abs
plastic or something.

Has anyone else seen these before? I wonder what they do
for the sound.. I would imagine they would kill near field
off axis response but would gain you a couple more decibels
of efficiency?

 

[Greg Monfort]

Don't have time to 'surf', got a link?

GM

 

[Brett DiMichele]

Greg,

I didn't catch who made them and I have been looking and
I can't find anything on them...

 

[Anthony_Gomez]

are you refering to the oris horns at welborn labs?

 

[Brett DiMichele]

Tony,

No these are just the horn sections you see on speakers like
the Osiris. They are meant to be retrofitted to non horn
loaded speakers...

I was just curious if anyone had seen them or better yet
heard them installed on a speaker just out of curiosity.

I have no idea who made them... Wish I could find that dang
ebay ad!

 

[Greg Peniston]

Mihorn.com is the website, I was curious about them myself.

 

[Brett DiMichele]

Greg,

Thats them!

 

[Brett DiMichele]

Well,

After reading thier website (Or barely being able to read
it, I should say...) I would steer clear. There is much
nonsense, hogwash and pure rubbish on thier site describing
thier product and what it does for sound...

 

[Greg Monfort]

Since no dims of use seem to be available on the website we can't calculate approximately how much off axis BW each one is ~capable of controlling. They will definitely help, but if not incorporated into the design from the get-go will create a very uneven, though probably very lively, sounding FR.

I've built in conical versions to reduce off axis response/aid in time alignment, so recommend the concept, if not these specifically.

The prices seem reasonable, so why not try some and report back?

GM

 

[Brett DiMichele]

Greg,

I didn't see the prices listed on the site I will have to
check it out again later on.

I am not looking to aile any defficiency in my speakers they
sound absolutely fantastic as they are (so much that I spent
12 hours on my day off just sitting back listening to music)

But I am a habitual tweaker, I can never leave "good and
well" alone.. And if something is cheap or free (DIY) then
I am always eager to tinker..

Perhaps they may be worth checking out, evaluating and if
I don't care for them I could sell them on Ebay.. Or I
could glue cardboard on one side and make them into flower
pots

 

[Greg Monfort]

No, you wouldn't want to add them to the ARs, or most any pre-built design without completely redoing their XOs. These are best suited as part of a fresh, from scratch, design.

That said, trying them on some cheap sealed design that only uses a cap for the tweeter will probably yield a much more lively sounding speaker that you can dial in 'close enough' by just trying different cap values. Who knows, might even get you hooked on stepping up to the next level of performance beyond the ARs.

GM

 

[Brett DiMichele]

Greg,

Trust me I am allready working on the next level of
performance. But I am not simply going from my AR9's to
something like AV-1's (Honestly I don't believe that would
be enough improvement for me) I don't think any tower
design would yeild enough improvement for me as after
careful tweaking and placement and equipment upgrades, my
AR9's absolutely floor me with thier sound. I guess if ya
can't hear them you can't believe me but they are nothing
short of amazing for a commercial speaker.

My DIY project will be Line Array's. It will be my first
DIY speaker and I am going to make sure it's my last...

Check out my other thread to see the direction I am going.

(PS: MiHorn sells those things to "add on" to existing
speakers.. I don't think the results would be stellar to
say the least)