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Peter Kline

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I wonder if he really looks like Kirk Douglas? Here's the article:

Film of Van Gogh allegedly discovered
AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) — Photography was still young and celluloid film had scarcely been invented when Vincent van Gogh committed suicide in 1890. Yet a team of Dutch filmmakers claimed Monday it has made a documentary about a snippet of film shot that year in which the artist allegedly appears.

The Van Gogh film will be shown in his native village of Zundert next Saturday as part of celebrations marking the 150th year of his birth, even though the record of Van Gogh's work and the lack of other evidence appeared to cast doubt on the claim that a grainy passer-by in the film was the brilliant but troubled painter.

According to Lumineus Film Productions producer Jeroen Neus, Van Gogh was attending a welcoming party for a new pastor in Zundert when he was coincidentally captured on film for a few seconds by an early film enthusiast.

The image of a bearded man wearing a hat, apparently a frame from the film, is shown next to a Van Gogh self-portrait on the Lumineus Web site.

The film supposedly lay for almost a century in a damp attic before it was discovered in 1984 and restored.

Bob de Graaff, the restorer, said Van Gogh was identified by comparing his face to the few known photographs of him and his many self-portraits; by his reddish beard which appears gray in the black-and-white film; and by his strange gait, allegedly a sign of Van Gogh's mental illness.

If the sequence is genuine, it would be one of the earliest films ever discovered in the Netherlands. An early patent was granted for a rudimentary celluloid camera in Britain in 1889, but the first recorded public showing anywhere of a movie wasn't until 1895, five years after the film was claimed to be shot.

The precise date of the film was not known. Van Gogh fatally shot himself in July 1890 in Auvers, north of Paris. Throughout 1890 the prolific painter produced a constant stream of work, including 77 paintings in the last three months of his life.

Evelien Lafaille, a spokeswoman for the Van Gogh Museum, said the artist was living in southern France for most of 1890. There is no written confirmation he visited the Netherlands and no known painting from what would have been a lengthy trip north.

However, Neus said Van Gogh hinted he was planning a trip home in a letter to a friend.

The old film was allegedly discovered by Belgian historian Theo Vandeneijnden and made into a documentary by American-born filmmaker Jerry Nasa, with funding from Zundert's cultural society.

In a statement about the film, the society said Vandeneijnden is affiliated with the Catholic University of Leuven, but a university spokesman said no one by that name was on the faculty.

Vandeneijnden and Nasa couldn't be reached for comment.

Neus said his company is in talks with Dutch television to sell the rights to broadcast the documentary.
 

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It is non-anamorphic widescreen, but other than that it doesn't look too bad for a 113 year old movie. :D
 

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ohh?

prove it.

1889 or so, assuming they had the fine shutter control to get above 10 frames a second (I'd be very surprised), the idea that they recovered a film after 95 years in a damp attic (and attics have insane temperature fluctuations) did not dissolve into dust decades ago, the film was also undoubtably some variety of photographic negative and not made for very brief exposures so it probably has terrible grain structure at the very least (and I expect they needed massive lighting this early to capture even as fast as 10 frames a second).

so they determined a strange walk from an extremely jerky image and discerned features with massive grain size and probably the tones are all off because of the lighting, stock etc, screwing all color symmetry.

I'm extremely skeptical, there's a reason that there is a six year gap between the first patent and teh Lumiere bros screening of "Train Arriving at a Station" for commerical purposes, a lot of technical difficuluties had to be overcome to reach the point of that film.

This sounds clumsy and moronic and I'll remain extremely skeptical for the time being.

Adam
 

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It sounds like a prank to me as well. They love doing those in Holland.
 

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Just to clarify:

This has almost immediately been identified as a "bad joke", because Vincent van Gogh was living in France in 1890 (as the article already states).

The people that claimed to have the material have also confirmed the "joke" today. :thumbsdown:
 

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