Berman & Braga Have Done it Now (Spoilered) to Appear on Enterprise

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  1. Dave Scarpa

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    Well to demonstrate how conceptually bankrupt they are for Ideas the dtnamic Duo will introduce the Borg to the 22nd Century Series. According to Trek Today the episode in May will find a team of Arctic Scientist finding a Downed Borg Sphere and Contacting Starfleet, who dispatches The NX-01 to investigate. The episode kinda sounds reminiscent of "The Thing" with a Trek Turn.

    I'm sure this ep will be similar to the earlier Ferengi episode that teeters on breaking continuity without actually doing it. I'm sure the team of scientists will get wiped out before starfleet can see the vessel. But so what. There's so many good storylines possible in the Birth of the Fderation storyline that there is no reason to trot out the Borg Again !

    Now it's been also mentioned that this might be the cube from First Contact and this is further evidence of the Polluted timeline in the temporal Cold War storyline, but I don't care. We don't need Borg in Enterprise.

    It's kinda sad to since the last few eps of Enterprise have been pretty good and have stood on their own.

    Paramount take the reigns from B&B.

    We'll see what happens when this drastic attemp at rating airs.
     
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    Awesome! Love the Borg, at least when done with the creepyness they deserve.
     
  3. Jeff Kleist

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    Oh god
     
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    Oh no.
     
  5. Kong Chang

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    Save me from boredom.
     
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    Honestly, are any of us surprised by this? I might accept it, IF, it's because the events of Star Trek:First Contact are held responsible for altering history. Then at least we can look back at Q Who and think to ourselves that within that timeline, this was the first time humans see the Borg, (Which, I realize, Voyager also ruined. These are the things I loath about B&B.). Still, can't they think of something ORIGINAL?! I already got sick of the Borg in Voyager, why go back to them? And honestly, were the Enterprise E's weapons so weak that some part of the sphere actually survived? Just, can't they leave the continuity alone? Guys, STOP CHANGING THINGS!

    Actually, now that I think of it...the proper way I think Enterprise should treat the Borg, should be with the origins of the Borg. Maybe it was some human-run experiment that went too far, and the ship was somehow lost light-years away. I see great potential with this kind of idea...but we've already seen that Enterpise isn't about ideas.

    That's just my rant for today.
     
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    Is there even such a thing as continuity anymore in the Star Trek Universe? Not suprising at all.
     
  8. Mark Kalzer

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    Of course...I now recall that Captain Picard claimed that the big transmitter the Borg were building on the Enterprise E's deflector was meant to be used to contact the Borg of the 21st century, implying that the Borg already existed. I can only theorize that he was wrong, that the deflector was meant maybe, to become a giant phaser beam to destroy Cochrane's ship on the planet. I know it's a bit of a stretch that Picard is wrong about those little details of the Borg, but not quite as much as...What Braga has in store...
     
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    What next, Ewoks?
     
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    No, silly.

    Tribbles, of course!
     
  11. Lee Jamilkowski

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    I am going to think good thoughts and assume that this episode will actually elaborate on the mysteries presented in "Dark Frontier" and Star Trek: First Contact.

    Remember, Lily saw a lot of things while she was running around with Picard (not to mention we didn't really see anything that happened between Picard and Data's defeat of the Borg incarnate aka the queen and the Vulcan ship landing. For all we know, there were a few hours in between there and Zephram and Lily got a full tour (albeit, Picard would pay majorly for this when he ends up getting interviewed by the DTI). Lily was evidently influenced... which is how the Starfleet delta shield ended up on Friendship One (and I bet she poked around and thought the Akira-class was a neat design, so suggested it to Cochrane for the warp five vessel).

    But I digress.

    Who knows? Maybe the realization that the Borg are out there will help lead to the formation of the Federation, even more so than the Romulan threat. Then, as the Borg aren't encountered again for centuries, they are dismissed as rumor and legend, until the El Aurians arrive. After that, Starfleet worries and covertly lets the Hansens study them, but contact is lost. Starfleet worries, but decides there's not a lot they can do with the little information that they have on the Borg. Until Q ends up sending the Enterprise to J25.

    But, that's just theory on my part. I'm just going to try to remain optimistic. It's easy to explain, kind of... Berman and Braga obviously want us to draw the lines connecting the dots ourselves.
     
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    This is what they get for making a ST series take place so early in the timeline.

    Personally, I don't care, so long as it's entertaining. Does it fit with the rest? No, probably not, but it's just a TV show. If they want, they could erase the whole season with the temporal cold war thing. Maybe at the end of the episode the Borg come in and make it all not happen.
     
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    What gets me is that the episode with the repairing ship that takes a crew member as a replacement for the stuff it does for the ship, I thought that was the beginning of the Borg (well it looked that way) without even mentioning once about the Borg. It would make sense that the Borg started out really small and not as hostile as they are now.

    But to actually reach down and discover a real Borg ship. Hmm...they are really stretching things a bit.
     
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    Time for another time jump. Cancel Enterprise, cancel any new movies, and in about five to ten years, create a new series that takes place, oh, 400 years or so after Nemesis. Oh, and make sure the creative personnel are kept at least 500 miles from Berman and Braga at all times.
     
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    When, oh when is Paramount going to pull the plug on these clowns??
     
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    No, the next thing will be Jar-Jar! [​IMG]

    Hey, Kong Chang, don't you mean save me from borgdom.
     
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    Cheer up, guys - at least we weren't inflicted with Star Trek Academy. Say what you will, Enterprise is better than anything *that* monstrosity would have amounted to.

    Just as an aside - isn't it remarkable how in every series of ST, our noble heroes only ever meet opponents they can just about beat or out-run? So for all the billions of years the universe has existed, every race has evolved to more or less the same extent *at exactly the same time*. Thus, in Enterprise we meet possible enemies who are a match for them, in TNG we meet more advanced enemies (just how long do you think the Silurians - or whatever they're called - would have lasted against Picard and co?).
     
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  19. Mark Turetsky

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    Yeah, personally I think that DS9 should get a few miniseries or MOWs. Only problem is the huge sets which have all been torn down.
     

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