Ok I am pretty much ready to say screw it on my quest to find the best under $400 player with an HDMI or DVI output and either SACD or DVD-A support, it seems every one I go to look at has flaws. I would rather just wait for HD-DVD or whatever, but I need something to replace my cheap Sony that is not even progressive scan. I really like the Onkyo 802, it is universal, a 6 disc changer, has solid build quality and I can get it for $350 shipped from JR.com. It would probably become a dedicated audio player once a good HDMI player or HD-DVD comes out. Does anyone here own this player or have any experience with it? Hopefully it does not have any major flaws because I am looking to pick it up soon. I was also looking at the Yamaha 750 as well.