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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by David McGough, Oct 5, 2001.

  1. David McGough

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    I can't believe these guys keep racing with no HANS device.
     
  3. David McGough

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    Well the Adam Petty and other driver killed had it.
    I agree they all ought to have them anyway..
     
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    I also believe all the drivers should wear a HANS device of some sort, however NASCAR will not mandate it. NASCAR is reluctant to mandate any piece of PPG (personal protective gear) for the simple reason that if a driver is seriously injured or killed while wearing an article of PPG mandated by NASCAR, NASCAR is then at fault and could be sued. IE: If HANS devices were required and someone sustained a neck injury in a crash because they were using the HANS device, NASCAR could be held liable.
    I believe the president of Nascar stated that about a month ago.
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    Agreed that the drivers should be wearing some sort of head restraint, but in this case the blame for not mandating it does not fall on NASCAR. This was an ARCA race which is an entirely different sanctioning body. They run Winston Cup style stock cars, many of them are actually retired WC cars.
    Still very sad indeed.... [​IMG]
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    This is awful. I don't know if the HANS device is the answer, but something needs to be done. Stock cars (NASCAR-and ARCA-type cars) are supposed to be very safe relative to, say, Formula 1 cars, but we have been losing a number of stock car drivers lately. Obviously, something is wrong.
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    I'm not trying to defend NASCAR, but I want to make sure people get facts straight...
     
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    Steve-
    You are right, the numbers alone don't prove anything. NASCAR (and similar heavy tube framed "stock" cars) have more races with more people participating so comparing the numbers of fatalities alone does not prove anything.
    According to this overview of NASCAR's report on Earnhardt's death
     
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    Today Oriol Servia had an accident at a CART race which was somewhat like nothing I have ever seen. His car went nose down into gravel so directly and forcefully that his car was flipped forward 540 degrees, and only landed right-side-up because it happened to do a half twist at the same time. The impact into the gravel was likely the most dangerous part of the wreck, and probably stressed his head and neck harder than many fatal stock car accidents the last couple of years
    Er, would have stressed his head and neck. He was wearing his HANS device.
    Video: http://espn.go.com/media/2001/m10/rpm_011014os1v.avi
    He escaped serious injury, but is under observation as is customary in such accidents.
    [Edited last by Michael St. Clair on October 15, 2001 at 12:53 AM]
     
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    Ouch!!, that video looked sick? Looked like he was hit or hit a car and got lifted in such a way that he came nose down into the sand and then just got catapulted into the air.. Good thing he landed upright, most likely less stressful than if he landed upside down on the rollover protection bars.
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    One of his wheels got over the wheel of another car, causing his car to literall 'jump' as it was headed towards the gravel.
     
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    The word is that apparently Servier was NOT wearing a HANS at Laguna Seca.
    I've never seen a crash quite like that one. It was pretty scary to watch and its amazing that he is OK, especially since he was not wearing a HANS. Luckily the construction of a CART car does allow for some absorbtion of the impact which probably did save him from a NASCAR type broken neck.
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    Yesterday on ESPN they said he did indeed have a HANS device on.
    Now Parker Johnstone is saying that he did not.
    I'm in shock. Talk about your miracles.
     

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