A first on the 'One Night at McCools' dvd case? (1 Viewer)

[Inspector Hammer!]

This is odd, but I was looking over the back cover of this disc, and saw the 'This film has been modified to fit your screen' disclaimer on it, AFTER I bought it! It scared the shit out of me, as I thought I had inadvertantly purchased a full frame title! But upon closer inspection, I noticed it said it's presented in 1.77:1.
So is this the first title to ever have the disclaimer on it, but are referring to 16x9 display's instead of 4x3 displays? This film was 1.85:1 in theaters, and 16x9 displays are 1.78:1, so I guess they mean that this film was modified from it's original version(1.85:1), to fit your screen(1.78:1).
I know this is common practice on dvd to present a film on dvd in 1.78:1, even though said film was 1.85:1 in it's theatrical run, but this is the first dvd to have this disclaimer refer to 16x9 displays instead of 4x3 displays, am I right?
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[Edited last by John Williamson on October 25, 2001 at 04:57 AM]

 

[Inspector Hammer!]

Can anyone confirm this?
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[Brad_W]

When my wife rented it for us about a week before it came out, it too said the same thing. We actually watched Heartbreakers first because we thought it would be in P&S. Finally, we got around to watching it and it was in a 1.85:1 ratio. When we went back to her video store, all of them were like that. How bizzare. I mentioned this same thing on my thread about One Night at McCool's, but no one really commented on that.
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[Inspector Hammer!]

Brad_W, I think you may have SERIOUSLY misunderstood my post, I am not a pan n scan supporter, for me, it's OAR or die!
What I meant was that usually this type of disclaimer is featured on dvd's that are full frame for 4x3 displays, but in this case, it says it even though it's 1.77:1, so the film was modified from 1.85:1, to fit a 1.78:1 screen, this is what I found unusual.
BTW, 'Heartbreakers' was filmed in 2.35:1 anamorphic, not 1.85:1 spherical.
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[Brad_W]

I think you misunderstand my post/I mis-typed my reply.
What I meant was: We didn't watch ONAM first because we thought it was P&S. We watched Heartbreakers first because it was in widescreen.
Here was my original thread:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/uub/...ML/031565.html
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[Edited last by Brad_W on October 25, 2001 at 03:29 PM]

 

[Inspector Hammer!]

Gotcha, my bad.
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[Roger Mathus]

There seems to be a growing trend to format 1.85 films to fill a 16X9 screen.

 

[Chad Gregory]

Roger...
What other movies have you found to be included in this "growing trend" of 1.85 films changed to fit 16x9?
-Chad

 

[Roby Adams]

Whew! Talk about a disaster averted. Calling some one a 'P&S Lover' is like using a recial slur around these parts.
Seriously, although I am a staunch supporter of widescreen, and have been since the laserdisc days, I might just switch to P&S advocacy just to shake things up.
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[Brad_W]

quote: recial slur[/quote]
Or a racial slur! Is a recial slur something to do with the rectum? just kidding! Rectum? I barely knew him! ha ha?
Anyway, no problem John. Though I did get offended (at first) when you thought I loved pan and scan which makes me realize that maybe it is like a racial or derogatory slur.
All is better now.
I'll take my meds and hide in the corner drooling on myself.
PS: Even my wife HATES pan and scan. god, I love her.
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[Edited last by Brad_W on October 25, 2001 at 06:02 PM]

 

[Julian Lalor]

There have always been some studios who re-format 1.85:1 films to 1.78:1. Warners, Columbia and Paramount have been doing this with many of their films for years.

 

[Chad Gregory]

There have always been some studios who re-format 1.85:1 films to 1.78:1. Warners, Columbia and Paramount have been doing this with many of their films for years.

Julian, examples please...
-Chad

 

[Ugo Scarlata]

There have always been some studios who re-format 1.85:1 films to 1.78:1. Warners, Columbia and Paramount have been doing this with many of their films for years.

True. Even Criterion have been doing this with most of their 1.85:1 films.
But this is a moot issue, IMHO, since overscan makes it impossible for most people to see a difference between the two ratios.
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[Roger Mathus]

Chad, I will try to locate a few specific examples and post over the weekend. Most do not say re-formated but rather something like presented in 1.78 aspect ratio.

 

[Chad Gregory]

Thanks Roger I would be very interested to know of a few examples...
I checked my collection (300+) and couldn't find anything that mentioned a 1.78 aspect ratio that wasn't supposed to be (Toy Story 2).
The only disc I can remember having this change was also a USA title, Where The Money Is.
-Chad

 

[Tom Ryan]

The Godfather DVDs' ARs were opened up to 1.78:1, nobody seemed to care.
-Tom

 

[Chad Gregory]

The Godfather DVDs' ARs were opened up to 1.78:1, nobody seemed to care.

I would argue that the difference is that the decision was Coppola's. I believe that in the thread discussing the transfer quality there was discussion of the films being 1.66 and 1.85 at different times. Either way, Coppola's choice.
-Chad

 

[Chad Ferguson]

Did you notice that the Heartbreakers deleted scenes were shot in 2:35? Wonder why that is?

 

[Chad Gregory]

The entire Heartbreakers movie was 2.35, so why would the fact that the deleted scenes are 2.35 be odd???
-Chad