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A Few Words About A few words about...™ Casablanca (70th Anniversary) -- in Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Robert Harris, Mar 9, 2012.

  1. Robert Harris

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    Great review. Very funny!
     
  3. Kevin EK

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    How about the "Ultimate Ultimate Edition"?

    Then, if they come up with a new transfer in 5 years (appropriate for the 75th Anniversary), they could have, wait for it,

    the "Ultimate Ultimate Ultimate Edition"...
     
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    Does this one have a lossless audio track?
     
  5. Robert Harris

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    It does. But it doesn't really matter that it does. There is little to be gained.

    RAH
     
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    I'm looking more forward to the March 21st DLP screening. Having seen Casablanca in 35mm back in 2004 (from a well loved print, probably from the 1992 re-release), this is one film that needs to be seen with an audience.
     
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    Speaking of DLP screenings, Cinemark is showing Ben Hur one day only next week. Has anyone seen this incarnation?
     
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    No I haven't--but I would sure like to see it this way! Do you have a link so I can look to see if it's playing in a theater in Louisville?
    Edit: It is! Thanks for the heads up. It's playing this coming Thursday at 2 pm and 7 pm. Wow.
     
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    I think I can wait five years for the "Ultimate, Ultimate, Really Ultimate" 75th anniversary edition. Maybe they will add a few more extras. (And by then I might live in a big enough place to store the box. :))
    (BTW, does anyone else remember the National Lampoon parody, "The Last, Really, No Sh*t, REALLY, Last Whole Earth Catalog"?)
    Re: Ben Hur. It is playing at a Cinemark theater about 20 miles from me and I'm taking a half-day off next Thursday to see it because I can't make an evening showing. (I also plan to see The Godfather there on March 22nd and The Godfather Part 2 on April 19th, both in the evening.)
    Later,
    Joe
     
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    It surprises me to see you say this. What is gained is the difference between a compressed and uncompressed signal. It doesn't matter what the age or the quality of the audio is.
     
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    I saw Ben Hur at a Cinemark last month and it was, in a word, fantastic. Definitely the way to see the movie. Numerous shots throughout looked as if they were produced yesterday.
     
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    Thanks for the positive review. It seems worth it...
     
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    Fingers crossed for an eventual disc only release...
    EDIT: Ben Hur isn't even playing in my state .
     
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    Cinemark is a theater chain, right? There's nothing at all in my region.
     
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    Always glad to read the Harris report - and I'm guessing this is absolutely not worth the upgrade - I was on the fence about it, but really liked the last Blu-ray, and if this new version is just not enough of a step up I see no reason to own the humungous thing that the teeny-tiny Blu-ray comes in.
     
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    WB spent yet again a huge amount of time and money on Casablanca--when they have literally hundreds and hundreds of worthy films that, in my opinion, should have been worked on instead. How about my pet idea of a boxed set of Danny Kaye movies? If you don't have Casablanca already, I'm sure it'd be a great idea to get it. But many of us who already have Casablanca on blu are likely to save our money for titles that are new to the format.
     
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    Pre-ordered.
     
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    If you can't hear a difference there's nothing to be gained. More bits doesn't mean better sound past a certain point.
     
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    Absolutely correct. It's funny, but I'd guess if you did a "blind" test with lossless and lossy on certain films (or maybe all films) few would be able to guess correctly other than just guessing and getting lucky - and many would hear no difference at all.
     
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    The reality is, that precisely the opposite is in play. Uncompressed audio, which can yield superb results for modern tracks, tends to reveal too many of the deficiencies of older tracks, which can sound superb in a more analogue world. The perfect and absolute reproduction of zeros and ones is not always the best way to go.

    Please keep in mind that older tracks were not created to be heard 1:1 from a master. Quite the same as classic films were not meant to be viewed from their camera negatives, which in many cases reveal far too much within the image, that would be hidden in original multiple generations.

    RAH
     

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