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POLL: Complete Original Broadcast Presentation: YES? NO? (1 Viewer)

Professor Echo

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At the beginning of the massive DARK SHADOWS DVD set, they have as a bonus feature, the original first episode complete with original network commercials intact. Watching it that way I was immediately transported not just into the era from when the show was broadcast, but the day and time. It was a very strange, yet fascinating experience for me, tapping into an atmosphere in my imagination that was part real, part myth. I was too young that June day in 1966 to have seen the show when it first aired, yet here I was taken back to its "world," the space and time where others were old enough to have been a part of it. For me, it made the experience of seeing it so much more meaningful, even though I had no personal connection to it.


It doesn't matter what the show is, there is history in it beyond the series itself that I long to see on DVD releases of vintage programs. So I decided to start this poll to see if anyone else feels the same way and why.

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IF YOU HAD YOUR CHOICE ON ANY TV SERIES ON DVD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE THE ORIGINAL NETWORK PRESENTATION AS INTACT AS IT COULD POSSIBLY BE?



1. YES, include a branching option to watch with all original network broadcast material within the episodes themselves; commercials, sponsor's tags, station breaks, trailers, product on end credits.



2. YES, include all original network broadcast extraneous material, but only as EXTRAS.



3. MAYBE, but only cast commercials and trailers as EXTRAS.



4. NO, just the episodes themselves.
 

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On classic shows, yes, absolutely! But I prefer it to be a choice via branching, like the I Love Lucy discs, especially if the original material is from kinescope or 16mm and/or of a lesser quality than the main part of the episodes. Which, of course, the majority of it all probably would be.
 

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I'd go with option #1, although I do like the idea others have mentioned of "branching" as an option. But bottom line is that when it comes to the 50's, 60's and even 70's I'd definitely love to see the series broadcast as they originally were.



Gary "heck, I might even pick up a Norman Lear produced show if I could see some vintage commercials" O. :lol:
 

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For variety, game, and talk shows, sure I've found it an interesting time capsule that doesn't pull me out of the content itself. However, for story-based shows I don't want intro's or trailers spoiling what is about to happen or what will happen next week. I don't want commercials or anything interrupting the flow of the story itself. Sponsor tags are fine, and including cast commercials at the end of the episode like on the TAGS blu-ray are very entertaining. So i guess I am somewhere in the 2 to 4 range.
 

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If we are talking about a forced situation where one would have to watch the commercials, bumpers (and potential spoilers), etc then I'd have to back off. Brad brings up great points and I'd never be in favor of forcing someone to have to watch an entire nob presentation. Only if it were, as has been mentioned, in a "branching" option type of format.



Gary "hope that makes sense of my preferences" O.
 

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I'd love it if you had the option to play just the episodes or an option to play with everything. I could choose one or the other, easily, depending on the mood I'm in.
 

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I'm with Peter and Gary. Choice #1 but *only* if offered as a branching option to view with or without. Otherwise choice #2 - only as bonus items.
 

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Gary OS said:
If we are talking about a forced situation where one would have to watch the commercials, bumpers (and potential spoilers), etc then I'd have to back off. Brad brings up great points and I'd never be in favor of forcing someone to have to watch an entire nob presentation. Only if it were, as has been mentioned, in a "branching" option type of format.



Gary "hope that makes sense of my preferences" O.

Yes, I was supposed to include that it was a branching option in answer #1, but forgot! It has since been corrected. I would be in favor of this as opposed to being forced to watch all the extra material. The latter might wear out its welcome on repeated viewings, potentially thwarting the nostalgia and history factors and instead reverting us back to how we felt at the time of the night of broadcast, i.e. hating commercials!
 

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BobO'Link said:
I'm with Peter and Gary. Choice #1 but *only* if offered as a branching option to view with or without. Otherwise choice #2 - only as bonus items.

I agree with this option. It would be fascinating to have the option to see these shows as they were broadcast originally with commercials, etc. intact. And, of course, I'd want the option to view just the show content with no interruption.
 

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Professor Echo said:
Yes, I was supposed to include that it was a branching option in answer #1, but forgot! It has since been corrected. I would be in favor of this as opposed to being forced to watch all the extra material. The latter might wear out its welcome on repeated viewings, potentially thwarting the nostalgia and history factors and instead reverting us back to how we felt at the time of the night of broadcast, i.e. hating commercials!

With branching included, I change to option #1. While I wouldn't use it often, it would be interesting to turn on from time to time, and it benefits all with this approach.
 

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Yes! With "ROOTS." That telecast is so important historically, that I wish it would happen. With:

1. The original ABC opening....the book rises up to form the title with "AN ABC NOVEL FOR TELEVISION" on-screen as well.

2. The bumpers which have the same image.

3. All the commercials...it is fascinating to see how the first night advertisers had no idea what they were getting for their money. Also, to see how they had trouble filling the spots, so they had to use a lot of ABC promos for their shows....I saw this at the Museum of Television in New York.

4. All of the original openings...some not seen since, except for 16mm copies ( I have them.)

5. All of the original closings.

6. The news breaks.


This is history & I would love to see it preserved.
 

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I fall between the #1 and #2 catagories.

Watching the complete network presentation of a TV series transports you back to that time and place more thoroughly. Its like a time capsule of that era.

I've enjoyed watching the complete episodes of the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson with commercials included...yes I know the celebrity guest musical intos were cut. Also enjoyed the Beatles, Ed Sullivan Show DVD set complete with MOST original commercials.

I also thought it was neat to hear the original promos for TV shows over the closing credits, when the Game Show Network had its act together and was showing the older classic game shows.
 

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Category #1, a branching option for any/every episode, would be amazing.


More realistically, I'd be happy if the sponsored shows from the 1950s & 1960s retained their brief "brought to you by..." sponsor billboards (which were a regular part of the show openings/closings) and "scenes from next week's show" promos intact, but only offered a single full sample episode (either the first episode of the season or a widely-regarded "top" or famous episode) infused with all the vintage commercials and network promos, as an extra, as was done with the VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA pilot, in the Season 4, Volume 4 set.


One thing I half-dislike about a few CBS/Paramount releases (and some licensed CBS series, like TWILIGHT ZONE through Image Entertainment) that have extras like sponsor tags and episode promos, is that they completely separate them as a bonus feature. While it's cool to see them, sitting through several minutes of disconnected, back-to-back "THE TWILIGHT ZONE is brought to you by.../THE TWILIGHT ZONE has been brought to you by..." tags can get pretty tedious, and is usually a 'watch it once, then never again' feature. If they had actually reinstated those into the episodes proper, it would've been a more worthwhile experience, I think.


This is a minor pet peeve of mine, but CBS/Paramount also seems to think it's a good idea to have the optional "next week" episode promo included along side the episode it's promoting, rather than having it advertise the actual next episode in the set. For example, on RAWHIDE, you have the Season 5 episode, "Incident of the Mountain Man" coupled with the promo for... the same episode --rather than for the next week's episode, "Incident at Crooked Hat". Again, a simple matter of proper placement would make this form of extra more worthwhile than it is.
 

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Option 1 if it's not forcing ads inbedded into the episodes. Otherwise, Option 2.


NOB commercials are good for historical and nostalgia purposes but one of my biggest attractions to the TV/DVD hobby is the ability to purchase and view episodes without commercials.


I do like to see the original ads as a menu option, like the way Image released those original "Naked City" box sets. I also like the Andy Griffith Show actor spots since they're short in duration.


I've always considered the absence of commercials one of the best attractions for paying for TV/DVD sets.


I've rarely heard any TV commercial audio. If I'm watching a live show or a sporting event, I'm best friends with the "mute" button :). And the DVR fast-fwd button is one of the best things to come along since TV/DVD's :).


I'm such a hardline "don't listen to ads" guy that until someone posted a reply to me at another forum, I'd never heard that guy's voice in those "Dos Equis" beer commercials that are usually seen in ball games.


I finally heard that "Stay thirsty, my friends" line when I clicked on a .wav file at that other forum :lol:

Gary OS said:
Gary "heck, I might even pick up a Norman Lear produced show if I could see some vintage commercials" O. :lol:

I believe I'll take that bet
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Number 1 would be my choice (Especially pre 1980's!), which also appears to be "The People's Choice!"


About My Peripheral "The Beatles' First ED SULLIVAN SHOW Appearance" Experience:


- On the night of this historic episode's original broadcast, I wasn't yet born, but my mother was "Expecting" me, and was around 6 1/2 months along by the February 9, 1964 airing. As I'm told our entire family was gathered around the TV, I was part of it, in a way! Viewing the broadcast on DVD allows me to see something close (Being in Canada, I suspect some of the commercials might have differed?) to what my other family members did that night!


CHEERS! :)
 

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sure, it can always be fun to look at old commercials, as long as we arent forced to do so.


the only question i would have is whether there is any difficulty with obtaining these extras ?


i would not want it to interfere with the quality of the actual episodes. (like cutting down on costs of the episodes, cuz of the cost of the extras)


many dvds that i have bought give one the option to watch with explanation or no explanation, and then keep that answer until you change it.


so it is no inconvenience for those who dont want it, and for those who want it, they can watch it.
 

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