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#181 of 198 joshEH

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Posted May 12 2014 - 08:47 PM

Dan Harmon just posted a very lengthy piece on his blog about Community's cancellation, and that he would be rather lukewarm about returning to the show, even if it does get picked up for another season elsewhere:

 

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I have always tried to be as transparent with you guys as possible, letting you in on the process of making (and not making) Community. So maybe my silence on the issue of a hypothetical sixth season seems frustrating. I was thinking I could stay quiet because there’s too much to say and anything can become a headline because of the timing, and I am so very sick of clicking on my dumb fat name and seeing my dumb fat face in that dumb photo where I’m pointing at the camera and my hands are inexplicably tiny despite being closer to the camera.

 

But, I’m getting tweets from some anxious sounding fans, tweets that make me anxious because I feel like I’ve made THEM anxious with my silence, etc.

 

The general feel of my twitter feed is “well, what should we do, do you want us to petition/riot/negotiate/scream or do you want us to say goodbye and let it be done?” There’s also references to an article in an industry gossip blog, which I won’t click, indicating that everyone in the world BUT me wants to shop Community around. And probably featuring that fucking weird tiny hand photo. Or the one where I’m snarling and my teeth are like corn kernels.

 

Let’s start with that, the idea that I don’t want this to continue. I don’t think I’m the guy that gets to say what happens at the more effective levels - my career would have a different shape if I were that guy. I’d fire everyone that fired me, give all of you a raise, let the audience pick which pilots go to series and keep shows running as long as their subscription revenue was a dollar over their budget. I am not Mister Shot Caller Guy. That guy went to a better school, didn’t drop out and has lizard blood.

 

I will confess, however, that when Sony called me on Friday with the news, there was brief discussion at the end of the call about the concept of the show living elsewhere, and I was definitely in the “eh” column. For a million reasons, some selfish, some creative, one logistic, five sexual, three racist (in a good way) and, oddly, nine isometric. I won’t bore you with them. I mean, of course I will bore you with them. Boring you is my job, my hobby and my passion. But it doesn’t matter right now WHY I’d be lukewarm or if my reasons would be valid, what matters is, I won’t be lukewarm. I’ll heat up. I said “eh” on a Friday afternoon, I will change it to a “sure, let’s talk” on Monday morning and Sony can do their thing. I’m not going to be the guy that recancels cancelled Community.

 

I’m scared to tell you how little a difference I think my enthusiasm will make. I know fandom, when it gets this deep for this long, becomes almost religious, including the urge to stone the less than faithful. But there are lots of reasons a Community resurrection could be difficult. So be prepared for that. Which brings us to the other thing, the first thing, that most of the anxious tweets are about:

 

What do we, the fans, do? How can we help? Whose dog can we kidnap? Should we eat at Subway? Does Obama know? Should I have this tattoo removed? Was that Abed in Captain America 2?

 

I honestly think you can totally sit back and relax for this chapter. I know you don’t feel relaxed but I mean you don’t have to worry that someone on this planet isn’t aware of this show’s value to its audience. There are actually astronauts on a space station right now saying “we get it, you love Community” in Chinese. You have done your thing.

 

If you want to know the God’s honest truth, part of my “eh” was coming from the unsettling thought of your passion for campaigns being once again exploited by this rather unfair, somewhat backward system, one that now treats you like it’s your responsibility to keep a show alive, like a corporation is doing you a favor by feeding you low grade opiate through a regulated tube. Like you owe them an apology when they can’t measure or monetize you to their satisfaction. You deserve better. I love you guys, and at its best, Community is me saying that over and over again, saying let’s get less mad at ourselves and each other and more mad at the inhuman systems that keep us down and divided. “Maybe it should have said less of that and more jokes.” Shut up, voice of my grade school principal that also coached and umpired softball because shrieking “steeeeeeerike” at children was his sole recourse to virility.

 

Anyway, I will not be standing in the way. I’m sorry to anyone that’s really taking this cancellation hard. I know how I felt when these fuckers killed Max Headroom. But you sit back and treat yourself to some New Girl and Parks and Mindy and Brooklyn 99 and Eagleheart and Portlandia and have you seen Matt Berry’s Toast of London? It’s awesome. Also not to be selfish but maybe check out Rick and Morty. And let TV be the needy clown that it’s still very overpaid to be, and let the suits deal with the suits and see what possibilities exist. That’s the best we can do for now. Ninety seven episodes. Over eighty pretty good ones. Mission accomplished.

 

By the way, remember when you complained about that one episode? Bet it’s not looking so bad now, huh ass face? Just kidding, I know it sucked. I was going for something cooler and - whatever, I don’t need to explain myself to you. Marry softball if you love it so much. I’m gonna be special when I grow up!

 

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"Ninety seven episodes. Over eighty pretty good ones. Mission accomplished."

 

Don't ever change, Dan. And don't worry, we just want one more season, and then you can give Rick and Morty your full attention. Give us that, and we won't ever beg for Community back again. Probably. Maybe. Okay, we'll beg again, but feel free to ignore us next time; just not THIS time.


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Posted May 13 2014 - 12:11 PM

I'd like to see it go out when Dan knows that's really the end and can close it properly. 6 episodes?
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Posted May 14 2014 - 10:16 AM

There's an interesting article written by another one of the staff writers about how working on Community helped him become a better writer:

 

https://medium.com/@...ow/d703b80ff3e5

 

Most interesting though was the two drafts he posted at the end as a comparison:

 

http://www.scribd.co...ity-209-Writers

http://www.scribd.co...ellowRevDraft-C

 

Both are of "Mixology Certification" and demonstrate how much happened in rewrites (and the second draft posted isn't the final one either).



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Posted May 28 2014 - 07:57 PM

"Community Season 6 Might Be Happening After All":

 

http://www.hitfix.co...ening-after-all


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Posted May 28 2014 - 09:31 PM

Wha!?

Trying not to get too excited as the talks are early.

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Posted May 29 2014 - 01:12 AM

I would love to have Community survive by Hulu.


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Posted May 29 2014 - 02:30 AM

God, please don't go to Hulu. I would prefer no more Community, to it being on Hulu.

 

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Posted May 29 2014 - 03:46 AM

^ You have to pay for Hulu? Under almost any other circumstances, I'd say "Fuck that" but I will pay for the shortest time period possible to see Community.



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Posted May 29 2014 - 09:18 AM

MY EMOTIONS!!!

 

 

 

I'd love to see it just to get a proper sendoff for the characters, but I think Hulu's budget is way smaller than even they're used to. Still, a cheap sixth season is better than no sixth season, if they can keep the writing-quality relatively high.

 

Some bizarre part of me wishes this could just turn out to be a sick joke. After an opening establishing shot of Greendale, we see the asteroid promised in the Season 5 finale smash into the Earth. Abed stands on the roof watching a tsunami sweep towards them, and only has time to say: "It's just like that movie Deep Imp--" before it hits.

 

Cut to black, end of series.


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Posted May 29 2014 - 11:30 AM

...I think Hulu's budget is way smaller than even they're used to. Still, a cheap sixth season is better than no sixth season...

If budget is an issue (and it probably would be), I'd like to see them go the route that HBO took with Treme and just make a lot less episodes for the final season and keep the cost per episode about the same. I think 13 episodes is already way too few but I'd rather see them make 8 or even 6 episodes rather than slash the budget even more.



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Posted May 29 2014 - 07:12 PM

Heck, I wouldn't really care if it's all bottle episodes taking place in a storage closet, just give me some more episodes with Harmon and the cast. I wasn't really feeling the ending of Season 5 as a proper series finale -- I need a more epic sendoff.

 

They could definitely get some good mileage out of the lack of network censors. Oh, and at least one Troy-appearance please, even if it's via Skype into someone's laptop in the storage closet.


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Posted May 29 2014 - 09:31 PM

The budget wouldn't change for Hulu.

Sony pays for the series, and these episodes would be added to the syndication package after the hulu exclusive period, and therefore they have no reason to skimp on the quality.
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Posted May 29 2014 - 09:33 PM

They can do a lot of "bottle" episodes for all I care.


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Posted June 30 2014 - 02:27 PM

Looks like Yahoo has come to the rescue. Yahoo is going to be bringing us a 13 episode season 6.

 

I would have started a new thread but since it will be a web show, I guess it wouldn't belong here:

 

http://www.eonline.c...-show-s-revival


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Posted June 30 2014 - 02:51 PM

^ Web series like Arrested Development, House Of Cards and Orange Is The New Black are called TV shows so Community still is too. :)



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Posted June 30 2014 - 02:53 PM

13 episodes...woot woot!

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Posted June 30 2014 - 03:29 PM

Sorry...just HAVE to post this again (and on the exact same page, no less): 

 


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Posted June 30 2014 - 03:32 PM

Americans actually seem to give a shit about soccer, and now Community gets renewed. Did someone replace reality with a different one while my back was turned?

 

Looks like this couldn't possibly have come any closer down to the wire -- according to sources, the entire cast's contracts were due to expire tonight at midnight.

 

Got a chuckle out of Dan Harmon's statement in the press-release:

 

"I am very pleased that Community will be returning for its predestined sixth season on Yahoo. I look forward to bringing our beloved NBC sitcom to a larger audience by moving it online. I vow to dominate our new competition. Rest easy, Big Bang Theory. Look out, Bang Bus!"

 

I honestly can't believe that this has happened. I had all but given up hope when it was reported that Sony and Hulu couldn't reach a deal.

 

Community's near-constant saga of rumored death, survival, cancellation, and resurrection has to be one of the most bizarre and fascinating entertainment stories in recent memory. Someone's going to get one hell of a book and/or documentary out of this some day.

 

Well...whatever form it takes, and no matter who's involved, I'm looking forward to Season 6 of Community. And the movie, which is now certainly inevitable, come hell or massive meteor-strike.


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