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#1 of 38 OFFLINE   ppltd

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Posted March 08 2007 - 08:46 AM

FYI: I figured since there were so many BD leads HD posts, I'd place this to level the playing field.Posted Image

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Toshiba, mainly through its $499 HD-E1 HD DVD Player, accounted for an 85% market share of next-generation blue-laser optical disc drives/players/recorders sold in Europe in January of this year, according to industry sources in Taiwan. Report
Of course, the PS3 is waiting in the wings.

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#2 of 38 OFFLINE   Dave Mack

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Posted March 08 2007 - 07:03 PM

$499 in Europe..?
dollars..?

I think the list (at least in England ) is 450 pounds, (about $868..)

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Posted March 09 2007 - 10:11 AM

One of the list prices is here :

http://www.play.com/....searchsource=0

That would be 350 lbs ( about $676 )

You know , if we all paid attention to the planet as a whole we probably wouldn't even have to put up with ( or work around ) Region Coding.

On the same site the Panasonic BD player clocks in at over $2000 and the Samsung at a little over half that :

http://www.play.com/....&go.x=0&go.y=0

Shopfloor prices are dearer still.....


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#4 of 38 OFFLINE   Jonathan Kaye

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Posted March 13 2007 - 12:54 AM

I might as well be the pedant to say it: the UK currency is never ever referred to as 'lbs', as that refers to pounds as in weight, '£' is the symbol for pounds sterling (GBP).
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#5 of 38 OFFLINE   Dave Mack

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Posted March 13 2007 - 08:19 AM

sorry, don't have that symbol on my computer keyboard, thought it would be clear what i meant.

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Posted March 14 2007 - 02:38 AM

Hi,

On a key board, if you use "alt" 0163 you will get the £ sign.

Hold the "alt" key and type 0163 et viola! £

Please resume to what you were talking about. : )

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#7 of 38 OFFLINE   Austan

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Posted March 14 2007 - 02:42 AM

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On a key board, if you use "alt" 0163 you will get the £ sign.
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#8 of 38 OFFLINE   ppltd

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Posted March 14 2007 - 09:20 AM

I'm £'ing my fists on my temples hoping we get back to the discussion point.Posted Image

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Posted March 14 2007 - 11:11 AM

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On a key board, if you use "alt" 0163
Too complicated. Posted Image
ALT 156 on the numeric keyboard (Num Lock ON) will do.


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Posted March 17 2007 - 01:02 PM

doesn't work on my dang laptop.
Almost went back in time though....


Posted Image oh well, I'll say GBP from now on. Meanwhile anyone else notice that the hd-xa2 is dropping like a stone on amazon? Through itself and it's sellers it's been down to $569...!

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Posted March 17 2007 - 04:31 PM

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Meanwhile anyone else notice that the hd-xa2 is dropping like a stone on amazon? Through itself and it's sellers it's been down to $569...!
Sorta like the price of BD DisksPosted Image .
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Posted March 19 2007 - 03:51 PM

No PS3 yet, plus they have more and better content for their players. Harry Potter ect.

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Posted March 19 2007 - 05:59 PM

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No PS3 yet, plus they have more and better content for their players. Harry Potter ect.

more and better ? world is not spinnig around HP4

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Posted March 19 2007 - 06:04 PM

how about this :

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Some 2006 hardware sales numbers in Europe from Video Business:

- Stand-alone HD DVD and Blu-ray players combined: about 3,000

- Xbox 360 add-on: under 15,000

http://www.videobusi.../CA6425099.html


so what do you think, those 1milions PS3s will do with those numbers...
OK I know 1mil is for PAL teritory, but lets say just 700.000 PS3

even if we take 20-30% from that number will use PS3 as blu-ray player, it will be even worse for HD DVD as in states...

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Posted March 20 2007 - 01:55 AM

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so what do you think, those 1milions PS3s will do with those numbers...
OK I know 1mil is for PAL teritory, but lets say just 700.000 PS3
If it is anything like the US release, it will be closer to 200,000 to 250,000 units.

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even if we take 20-30% from that number will use PS3 as blu-ray player, it will be even worse for HD DVD as in states..
We shall see, in just a few weeks.
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Posted March 20 2007 - 03:42 AM

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If it is anything like the US release, it will be closer to 200,000 to 250,000 units.

By March 16, Benelux (that's Belgium/Netherlands/Luxembourgh, pop. 27 million) has already 44,000 preordered units out of the 50,000 initially alloted.

http://www.psu.com/node/8973

Sweden (pop. 9 million) already sold out its 13,000-14,000 allocation.

http://prylportalen.....MKF689.dbp.asp

#17 of 38 OFFLINE   ppltd

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Posted March 20 2007 - 08:53 AM

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By March 16, Benelux (that's Belgium/Netherlands/Luxembourgh, pop. 27 million) has already 44,000 preordered units out of the 50,000 initially alloted.
These number mean nothing, until matched to what Sony can deliver. They were only able to get out 192,000 of the 500,000 originally scheduled for the US. With the changes made to the hardware for the Euorpean units, my guess is that Sony will hit maybe 350000 to 400,000 of the promised units, and IMHO, that is giving Sony way too much credit.
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#18 of 38 OFFLINE   Carlo Medina

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Posted March 20 2007 - 03:10 PM

Well Thomas, you spend most of the time in the other thread talking about Sony's overstocking of the PS3, so now all of the sudden they'll be shortstocked in Europe?

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#19 of 38 OFFLINE   Edwin-S

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Posted March 20 2007 - 04:34 PM

What changes were made to the PS3 hardware for European release?
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Posted March 20 2007 - 08:20 PM

The backward compatibility with PS2 for games was diminished further (a.k.a. non-existent).


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