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A Dribble of News about ENTERPRISE (I)


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#1 of 29 OFFLINE   Rex Bachmann

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Posted July 11 2003 - 08:37 AM

SciFiWire: "Enterprise Has New Course"

dateline: July 11, 2003 12:00pm E.T.

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TrekWeb has posted a report from a recent visit to the set of Enterprise which reveals some of the new directions the series will be taking in its third season. According to the site, new standing sets include a brig, a command center and an alien planet of mysterious origin. The site also hinted that prior to the set visit, scenes had been filmed using "black-suited actors who will later be replaced, whole or in part, by interactive computer-generated characters."

Stars Connor Trinner and Scott Bakula were on hand to film scenes for the second episode of the season, entitled "Anomaly". The actors had reportedly been up late the night before "shooting a water sequence" in a small chamber on a stage referred to by the cast and crew as "Planet Hell." Other details included "cryptic mentions of floating props [which] suggest that promises of toying with the laws of physics may begin to come true in this second episode."

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#2 of 29 OFFLINE   Jason Seaver

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Posted July 11 2003 - 02:13 PM

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the second episode of the season, entitled "Anomaly".
Ah, those evocative Berman-Trek names. Nothing says "bold" like a name that could describe roughly 150 TNG/Voyager/Enterprise episodes. I see they've even dispensed with using the definite article, as if they somehow know that this is a theme they will later revisit.

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#3 of 29 OFFLINE   Jack Briggs

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Posted July 12 2003 - 06:55 AM

Same here. But sometimes one must laugh in order to keep from crying. Meanwhile, diggin' those TNG and DS9 and TOS discs. Star Trek used to be such a hoot. Why, when I was a kid...

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Posted July 12 2003 - 09:56 AM

Ah, those evocative Berman-Trek names. Nothing says "bold" like a name that could describe roughly 150 TNG/Voyager/Enterprise episodes.


That description made me laugh out loud -- too true.

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Posted July 12 2003 - 11:03 AM

Ah, those evocative Berman-Trek names. Nothing says "bold" like a name that could describe roughly 150 TNG/Voyager/Enterprise episodes.


150? I think I stopped watching around #30.

I prefer the more poetic/Shakesperian titles, like TOS and Babylon 5. Not the bland titles to match the bland episodes OF Berman-Trek.

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Posted July 13 2003 - 08:20 AM

I just finished DS9 Season 3 on DVD.. and it struck me how well thought, well played, and -different- the series was. I'm struggling to find anything about "Enterprise" that is unique enough to pique my interest.

The title "anomoly" about suits it up.. I thought the same thing.. I look at the titles of DS9 after Berman largely left (season 5 on) and you see some unique ones.

"...Nor the Battle to the Strong "
"He Who is Without Sin"
"Wrongs Darker Than Death Or Night"
"Treachery, Faith And The Great River"


Anyway, the thing is, Enterprise has yet to find what makes it unique.. which is odd, because the whole thing, by it's existance, should be very unique.. but instead, it plays as very re-gurgitated.. and manages to drum up plot lines from current series.

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Posted July 13 2003 - 12:49 PM

"Tacking Into the Wind" was always a provocative episode title. It's going to be a long half month until the next DS9 box is out. Posted Image

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Posted July 13 2003 - 03:38 PM

I have a question: If this were not a Trek affiliated show, how many of you would keep watching? From what I've seen, I can't find anything except franchise loyalty that keeps people coming back.

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Posted July 13 2003 - 04:10 PM

I admit, I'd probably be totally gone (as it is, I ignore episodes where Berman and/or Braga get a writing credit). And even still, franchise loyalty can only bring me so far - I bailed on the last few seasons of Voyager. Enterprise is frustrating in that I can see potential peeking out around the edges, and I get the impression that some of the writers would do nifty things if not held back (Sussman & Strong tend to sneak tons of little references in there, and would probably do a good Trek-history show; Shiban seems to do well with the space opera).
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Posted July 13 2003 - 04:21 PM

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The title "anomoly" about suits it up.. I thought the same thing.. I look at the titles of DS9 after Berman largely left (season 5 on) and you see some unique ones.

How about Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges for the list?
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#11 of 29 OFFLINE   Mike Broadman

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Posted July 13 2003 - 04:31 PM

Adam, I admit to watching Enterprise solely on franchise "loyalty." It's silly, I know, and I'm not going to defend it.

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Posted July 13 2003 - 04:33 PM

Surprise suprise, an Enterprise thread that doesn't devolve ever so quickly into a group-bashing of the program. I've never seen *that* before. Posted Image

I, for one, and am looking forward to season 3 of Enterprise. They've introduced an interesting concept (yes, I consider it interesting), and I'd like to see how it evolves.

Do I think that the show is a stallar example of great storytelling & direction? No. Do I think that Seasons 1 & 2 represent the best the series might have to offer? No. Are Berman & Braga the best candidates for the job? Probably not. Have I found a handful of the episodes to be disappointing? Yes. Have I enjoyed the majority of the episodes? Yes. Do I think they can make season 3 interesting, intriguing, and enjoyable? Yes!

I will be tuning in. If you don't feel that the program is worth your time or energy, exercise your right as a viewer and depress a key on your remote that will either change the channel, or turn off the power to your television.

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Posted July 13 2003 - 05:29 PM

I agree with most of what you said, Moe. I don't tune in just because I'm a fan of former Trek. I find it entertaining. If the worst it is is bland, that's okay. Besides old sitcoms and news programs, it's the only thing I watch on TV. In other words, it's the only new programming I watch at all. Maybe it's because I have nothing against which to judge Enterprise, but it's worth the weekly tune-in. Posted Image

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Posted July 14 2003 - 04:31 AM

Couldn't agree with you more Moe. Well said.

#15 of 29 OFFLINE   Adam Lenhardt

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Posted July 14 2003 - 09:58 AM

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Adam, I admit to watching Enterprise solely on franchise "loyalty." It's silly, I know, and I'm not going to defend it.
I'm not asking you to. It wasn't meant as an insult; simply an observation. Sort of like how I rarely enjoy the Simpsons any more, but keep coming back every week. The memory of something awesome can be a powerful thing.

#16 of 29 OFFLINE   Mike Broadman

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Posted July 14 2003 - 10:28 AM

Adam, don't worry, I didn't take it as such. My post was more of a (non-belligerent) response to the point that many have made in this forum: if we dislike the show so much, why watch it? My point is that makes a lot of sense.

Since I have ReplayTV, I don't have to be home at a certain time to watch it. If I would, I wouldn't bother.
So, without commercials, it's only 45 minutes a week. I'm not really "losing" anything.

Moe, all I can say to your point is that it is difficult to not compare Enterprise to the previous Treks. Maybe we shouldn't, I don't know, but if they didn't want it to be associated with the franchise, they shouldn't have placed it in that universe.

As nerdy and silly as it sounds, Star Trek means a lot to some of us. Yes, it's just a TV show (or 5 TV shows), but they really are (or were) something unique, visionary, and special. And when the latest edition of it is not up to par, fans will naturally get incensed. Just check out the many thousands of words dedicated to the last two Star Wars movies to see the same thing.

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Posted July 14 2003 - 11:55 AM

Ive read on trekweb also that they are casting a new sexy Army/Navy type to add more appeal to the the show.
Like we need another Woman in a tight suit to get ratings up.
We need better writing, something B&B or Paramount will never understand.

I used to tune into Voyager based on franchise loyalty and I just cant do it any longer.

Enerprise is just not good enough to watch just because past Treks were good.

I am exercising my right not to tune in and apparently allot of other people are too.
The show is tanking in the ratings and up against Smallville this season it has to show more than titilation to get more viewers.

Frankly I am tired of people saying if you dont like it dont watch it. I feel that as a Trek fan of over 30 years I deserve to say that a once good franchise is crap now because I want Good Trek to watch and I am not getting it.

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Posted July 14 2003 - 02:48 PM

There was a piece on the Trekweb site where Berman is quoted from a British Trek magazine where he talked about Enterprise going up against Smallville which I just saw today. Someone above mentioned this too. Does this mean that the show is moving to Tuesdays? He was talking about how some felt the demographics of the two shows are different and that there shouldn't be an issue of losing more audience, while he also mentions others who say the demographics are similar and it will hurt the numbers of viewers. Interesting, I had not heard the show would be moving.

The other interesting subject was how he felt that the Nemesis DVD is number one. He was delighted, but didn't need to see that to know that the movie was good. I think he and the cast really felt they had a good product there, but Jonathan Frakes is probably right in his opinion that there is just too much Trek out there now. With all the TV shows on the air now, from all incarnations of Trek, the audience probably feels it can see it for free, why see the movie?

I myself am interested to see what is in store for this season of Enterprise. They may really blow it or have the same ole' or surprise the audience with some coo stuff.

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#19 of 29 OFFLINE   Daniel Kikin

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Posted July 14 2003 - 03:01 PM

StarTrek.com posted a huge news item about "The Xindi", the S3 premiere. The new Navy Seal-type unit on the ship will be called MACOs, "Military Assault Command Operations," led by a Major Hayes who will be played by Steven Culp (who was supposed to be the new first officer at the end of ST:Nemesis but had his scene cut).

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Posted July 14 2003 - 03:11 PM

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According to the IMDb, Steven Culp played "older Martin Blythe" in The Emperor's Club.


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