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Hell Just Froze Over....

Discussion in 'DVD' started by Charles H, Mar 11, 2008.

  1. Charles H

    Charles H Well-Known Member

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    Apparently the release of VILLA RIDES is not pd: if it is, it's a widescreen pd. And the pd company is also releasing on 6/3: KING OF THE GYPSIES. THOSE DARING YOUNG MEN IN THEIR JAUNTY JALOPSIES, STUDENT BODIES, THE ONE AND ONLY, THE OPTOMISTS, THE POSSESSION OF JOEL DELANEY, THE WHOOPEE BOYS, ZPG, SOME KIND OF HERO, THE SKULL, JEKYLL AND HYDE TOGETHER AGAIN, and HOUDINI (George Pal/Tony Curtis). Paramount has risen from the grave. You might want to check out Movies Unlimited for further titles!
     
  2. MarcoBiscotti

    MarcoBiscotti Well-Known Member

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    Wow, I'm shocked... though I still don't quite understand Paramount's thinking in selecting catalog titles.

    Surely, they could've done better than the mostly unknown 80s movies here. I have to say that for the most part I'm not all that enthusiastic on the titles. I'll probably pick up The Skull for Peter Cushing's casting alone, though reviews are not all that hot. Being a big Sellers fan, I'll probably add The Optimists to my list as well, though again it looks like a second-rate feature. I've never seen The Possession Of Joel Delaney either but a 70s Paramount horror with Shirley MacLaine interests me. Imdb also doesn't give it much praise. The only title I'm really set on is George Marshall's Houdini with Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh. And Those Daring Young Men is a nostaslgic guilty pleasure for me which I'll also be picking up, though I might have to give some of these rentals first. Surely they could've come up with some better picks from their as of yet unreleased 1960's oputput... or at the very least, revisit some of the mistreated classics like Shane, Barefoot In The Park and so on who's current transfers are abysmal. Anyways, it's nice to know Paramount is in fact a home video company and are releasing movies!!

    To be honest, I still won't believe any of this until I see these titles in stores!
     
  3. MarcoBiscotti

    MarcoBiscotti Well-Known Member

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    Could someone please explain Paramount's holdings; is it just the post-1950 catalog titles that they now own and are licensed to distribute?


    Would that mean that it's Universal Studios that now controls films like I WALK ALONE and THE BLUE DAHLIA, etc?

    What about the Republic library?

    Are they responsible for holding back films like JOHNNY GUITAR??
     
  4. John Hodson

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    'The Optimists' is a good Sellers film and I'm stunned it's coming at last.

    I'm surprised you think the 'Shane' transfer is abysmal Marco.

    Paramount owns its back library of titles dating from 1948 onwards. Pre-1948 titles are owned by Universal Pictures. As I undertstand it, Paramount could have taken all the Republic back catalogue back from Lions Gate last year but chose not to do so, aside from cherry picking certain titles like 'It's a Wonderful Life'.
     
  5. MarcoBiscotti

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    Perhaps abysmal was the wrong adjective, though I would easily say that for Barefoot In The Park. I think Shane needs to undergo a serious restoration as it is undoubtedly not presented adequately for a film of such caliber in it's current DVD edition. It could use a lot of work, I'll say that much.
     
  6. John Hodson

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    I think it's a decent transfer, but there ya go...
     
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    Well with Paramount and Universal both feeling the sting of the High def market and what happened, maybe they do need to actually go into the catalogs. Could this mean that eventually we will see a release of The African Queen? Now concerning the transfer on Shane, I hold this western in truly high esteem, and it could almost be a two disc set, one full frame, but the film was released soft matted at 1:66 so a widescreen presentation is warranted, to keep OAR. Also Stevens was so particular that he would wait for the proper cloud formations, to get the right shot. Of course through the years the same thematic thing has played out, and good variations have come along, The Road Warrior comes to mind. Worst mistake in my mind is that Paramount has re-licensed most of its Republic Library back to Lionsgate, which means that it will continue to sit in a vault somewhere, unless it is a John Wayne title, and doesn’t get a new transfer, just repackaged. Such a shame that who is in control of most of these catalogs don’t know what they have, they are more interested on what is going to big at the box office in the next two months so the can get it on the shelf , and make more money out of it.

    Now I know the fact that I bring up Shane sounds like I am ok with the other thing that irritates me, the double and triple dip trend. Why is Paramount re-releasing the Indiana Jones, just so in 7 months they can release it all again once the 4th movie is ready for disc with a new box set? Simple ….. Money!
     
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    The only title I will be getting from that bunch is HOUDINI, but nice to see that Paramount is actually doing something! Bizarre choices, but about time!!! [​IMG]
     
  9. John Hodson

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    'Shane' is framed perfectly for Academy; by comparison, it looks God-awful cropped to 1.66:1, so, at least here, that wouldn't be a come on.
     
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    Dana, as John as correctly pointed out, Shane was shot Academy and never intended to shown in any wide screen format. From Pauline Kael:

    "The cinematography by Loyal Griggs won the Academy Award; this must have struck him as a black joke, because Paramount, in order to take advantage of the new fashion for the wide screen, had mutilated the compositons by cutting off the top and bottom."
     
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    Pardon my ignorance but what is "pd"? I can usually figure out most abbreviations but this one escapes me.
     
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    a "public domain" property.
     
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    Ah! Thanks.
     
  14. Bob Cashill

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    I'd definitely temper my enthusisam till reviews appear. Sounds a bit fishy to me.
     
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    Is it TeleVista again? They put out two Robert Youngson films (When Comedy Was King and The Golden Age of Comedy) a few weeks before the official RHI/Hallmark/Genius DVD. The joke was on them: the official remastered double feature cost half as much as just one of the two films.

    Also, Paramount does still own their pre-1929 silents - anything that exists. They also hold video rights to the CBS feature films (like the many Cinema Center Films titles - Little Big Man and the first two Peanuts features).
     
  16. MarcoBiscotti

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    Yes, the remaining Peanuts features are long overdue for a release!

    It's too bad Warner Home Video couldn't have acquired these in the licensing agreement with the Schultz estate along with all the television specials.

    As for Paramount releasing silents... unfortunately there's no chance in hell of that ever happening!
     
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    I know, sort of the same argument about Kubrick's work or Disney titles , its just that this format is no longer in its infancy, and while some studios are very good at going into there catalog titles, others are almost to the point of avoiding them. Case in point, a large chunk of the Paramount’s are owned by Universal, which while not great at it has on occasion released them, The Demille set, was a good solid release, sad to say, but some of the best releases of classic Paramount titles come from Universal, but the same holds true for MGM titles owned by WB, such as Gone with the Wind, ideally what Paramount still has, and what it is willing to release, are always going to be different. Are we ever going to see a mass of silent titles released by a major studio? I think not, the smaller distributors are going to handle that. Also the fact that they re-licensed the Republic Library back to Lionsgate is disheartening.

    I know that they can do a great classic release with proper treatment, Sunset Blvd. is a shining example of it, but the fact that more time that often what they do is go to the same releases and redo it over again. Audrey Hepburn, Grease, Saturday Night Fever, they are getting good at going back and if the film had any merit in the last 20 or so years and putting out some catchy phrased named special edition.


    Paramount Film Preservation

    explains why I and everyone who loves classic films are wondering what is going on, take a look at the list of what has work going on, why do I still have the sort of washed out copy of High Noon, or Invasion of the Body Snatchers. . Because there hasn’t been a decent upgrade, not to say that I am ever happy with the double or triple dip, but if the film is vastly improved, and warrants the best presentation possible, and then I break down and buy it.
    Last years John Wayne Centennial release by Paramount could have been larger, by the fact that they could have taken in account the Republic titles, instead of a repackaging of the old Artisan into two box sets. And I wont even go into the fact that the Animation that they still own is a goldmine, thankfully WB is releasing the Popeye’s, but realistically, when do you think that Paramount, will officially release a restored authorized Betty Boop set?
     
  18. John Hodson

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    I don't think that restoration site hasn't been updated for some time. Paramount has finished the restoration of 'High Noon' and it is absolutely drop dead gorgeous (one of the best presentations of a black and white film I've ever seen); only problem is that it's only available from Paramount in Europe and Australia because in R1 Lions Gate still has the license.

    Having said that, I read somewhere that the new restoration will be making its way to R1 at some point in the not too far future, alongside some new extras - you'll just have to keep those fingers crossed that Paramount see sense, takes back those Republic licenses, and does the right thing by a whole slew of movies that Lions Gate have half-heartedly pushed out onto the digital format.
     
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    Where on Movies Unlimited are these listed? I couldn't find them.
     
  20. dana martin

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    John you have no idea how much i pray for that day, when i can see the following


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    all handled properly by paramount, odd that at one time this was one of the biggest and most influential studios, borrowed that list from there site and was going to clean it up, one of the problems is the international titles, like Zulu, which would make for a great SE, hell Paramount could do a Michael Caine, box set if the had the distribution rights, its just with this no longer being a studio era, and more so a group of conglomerates, how many in charge of the business end actually know anything about movies? What the other studios do, do well is box sets, and I have to say the TV division is dead on with its fine releases, of classic television, but the film division, other than a hand full of items, like Elvis, John Wayne, and Hepburn, rarely do, I know that we get the occasional Mel Gibson three pack or something like that, and the Martin and Lewis sets were a start.

    Would a Billy Wilder set, of all his Paramount films been a good choice, A DeMille set, of all the DeMill titles they have would be another good choice. For a lot of this to work though deals have to be brokered. And sometimes the films themselves suffer, because of what has been moved from one library to another.

    Further up Marco mentioned that one of the titles that someone had mentioned was in PD, but one of the other threads on here was in some debate as to when a title really is in PD. And what is needed to happen to change that, I harbor no ill will, (well maybe a lot) at the bargain houses that release what they think are titles in PD, so I walk into Best buy, see 35 different releases in little tin cans of the Stooges, and because of it struggle to find the officially licensed first two years, that came out last year, great set by the way. The studios themselves should be watching this, and know the state of there materials. With the different acquisitions along the way of the poverty row studios, by the major studios through the years. Why is it that only WB is looking to tackle something as large as the Bowery Boys set?
     

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