Thats Why I mentioned the converter but I'm having a hard time seeing that many people would invest in a converter for an old TV that they may need to replace soon when they could just buy an affordable HDTV. Unless it was for a big screen TV. A 36" TV is now about $300.00 5 years ago it was $800-$900 and not that many people considered that to be expensive. You can now buy a 24-30" HDTV for $800-$900. In 2-3 years it will be at least half that so I don't see why its is hard to believe that most will own a set when one could be purchased for $400-$500.00 possibly even less. As far as VHS goes Beginning in 2001 VHS had been reduced to a small section in most retail and rental stores. Catalog titles had gone out of print. New releases began to be limited to only Big A titles. E-BAy began to be the #1 place of purchase for VHS all these are tell tale signs of a dead format. Maybe in the midwest it was different but not on the east and west coast. I only say this because I sold a number of VHS on E-Bay in the past few years and the majority were to the midwest. Your stating that new releases have to be special ordered by Amazon is a sign of a Dead Format. If it wasn't you could walk into any store and buy a new release.