1603 AND 1803 have already hit...2803 any day.... based on recent "anecdotal" problems with both 02"s and 03's , I am gonna "wait and see" before getting on the bandwagon of reccomending them...the feature set looks tempting (ie; 1803) but nothing in the "balls" dept.....amp quality ,lately, has also been unimpressive...I hope that they get it together for the 3803....I sell more Yamaha and DENON rcvrs than anyone in my company (I also sell other brands) and I like having a larger pool to recommend from...
Actually, don't ask Jeff Talmadge. The question has been posed several times already with no answer given. Repeating questions on their special guest forum is frowned upon and could result in the moderator closing the thread. It's been a great thread to follow and I'd like to see it stay that way as long as Jeff is willing to keep coming back.