V - Season 2 (1 Viewer)

[Tony J Case]

What! Every human DIES!?! ARRRGH! SPOILERS!! DAMN YOU ALL!!!



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So - does it end on some kind of cliffhanger? Or does the season just stop?


(And I hope that the 'everyone dies' moment is a bit like the ending of Blake's Seven - the Vs busting into the human's basement and gunning everyone down in slow motion. That would be AWESOME!)

 

[TravisR]

Their last episode was easily their best episode.

 

[NeilO]

Originally Posted by Tony J Case

(And I hope that the 'everyone dies' moment is a bit like the ending of Blake's Seven - the Vs busting into the human's basement and gunning everyone down in slow motion. That would be AWESOME!)

No, everyone doesn't die but several characters were killed.


I cannot believe that Erica's FBI buddy and her boss were working with a hidden military group this whole time. This season would have been a lot more entertaining if that group has been brought in at the beginning of the season and was working with the 5th column. It appears that Hobbes just vanished unless he was connected with that group as well.


While this probable series finale was one of their best episodes it still had huge holes and stupid actions by most of the characters. I can't believe that their grand plan to get rid of Anna was partially defeated because they didn't notice there was a huge mirror in the room. And what good was having the 5th column doctor guy remember he was 5th column if he couldn't do something to sabotage the new queen-egg plan?

 

[Tony J Case]

Ah, pity we didn't open with a hot lesbian sex scene between Anna and Action Mom. That would have been awesome.

So knocking boots with Terrorist Guy wasn't a one-off? Nice to see that you so deeply loved your husband that you waited a week after his death before schtupping another man.

So how did they make the jump from peace ambassador center to a funeral home? What the hell was the deal with the hearse? And wouldn't it attract more attention for Lisa to go into a funeral home than - say, get on a subway or something?

So security is supposed to be super tight in and around Anna? Except of course where she's walking around completely in the open surrounded by perfect sniper spots - since we've seen how good the FBI is with those sniper points. And boy - look at that small crowd turning out to support Anna. Guess the budget couldn't afford more folks from central casting.

"This god, I hope someday to meet him." Anna says. It would have been cool if Angsty Priest would have stolen Indy's line of "Then why don't we go see him together?"

So the plan is for Lisa to kill her mom in front of (more or less) hundreds of cops? That's not assassination, that's just stupid. And nobody bothered to notice at the GIANT FREAKING MIRROR in the warehouse? Guess it had the same cloaking device that Anna's ceiling with the escape pod had. And since the La Resistance had abandoned all pretense of an assassination with any measure of stealth or secrecy, why didn't Action Mom just pull out her gun and finish the job when Anna stepped out of the warehouse. Oh sure it wasn't the disintegration ray gun, but I'm sure a couple of rounds into the brainpain would have done the job just as well.

Um, did nobody in the massive crowd notice Anna sneaking up on Diana before the really crappy CGI impalement? On the other hand, here's Anna has a room full of proven Diana loyalists. Why is her next step NOT locking the doors and rolling in a dozen grenades? Or why don't several thousand Diana Loyalists seize the moment to overthrow her? Hell, just rushing the stage and beating her to death would do the job!
Yippie! Flip-flopping Alien got fragged! About damned time!

Putting aside the FBI bug in her house, wouldn't Action Mom know that the aliens are most likely monitoring c-phone communications? So good job on spilling the beans on an open line. Of course by now it's been proven that the aliens are completely incapable of monitoring anything, from facebook servers to simple wiretapping, so I guess it really is no big deal.

"Put skin on my crappy CGI monster!"

That's not a bad prison cell, they have On-Demand porn!

Wait - The Master is working against the Visitors? That explains everything!

"It's our last, best hope for a future"? Um, guys - it's never a good idea for your shitty science fiction show to remind viewers of a much, much better science fiction show.

Yippie - Starchild deus ex machina!

So if everyone on the planet came to a sudden stop all at once, what happened to the people driving cars? Shouldn't there be all kinds of burning wreckage littering the streets? And Bliss only works if you are in direct line of sight? People underground are not effected? That's good to know!

Hah! I called it - giant cliffhanger that will never be resolved! Humanity's been blissed into a population of mindless slaves? Only a tiny room full of people left in operational status (not counting the people indoors, in bank vaults, in subways or not directly under one of the 29 motherships) remain? So I guess that means that the aliens have won! Frankly that's the ending that this series deserved.

 

[mattCR]

I really have no love for how this ended. They knew this show was in trouble ratings wise and yet they never got around to any real action.... at all. There were lots of rumors and discussion of action, but we sure as heck didn't actually see any. Just plots that fell apart or didn't happen BORING. The entire concept these guys had been watching her and were waiting to prove she was anti-V... WTH is that? The entire concept of that is mindboggling. They didn't realize she was leading the most vocal global anti-V movement and yet they had huge technologically awesome sub-terran operations centers that Anna hadn't figured out even existed?!?!?!?! If you're going to go out in flames, at least make it interesting

 

[Nelson Au]

I feel bad for all the actors involved.

This must have been the messiest series I've seen in a long time. Plots lines were developed and meandered off and there was no real reveal as to why the visitors came, it wasn't made clear, was it to mate? But Anna and her new daughter could still make babies. Was it to enslave mankind? Was it to Serve Mankind? It seemed like a show like this needed a very simple idea, they're here to blah, blah...


Interesting to see Marc Singer in a thankless little role. I was sorry to see Diana die. I thought it would have been interesting if she could have turned the tables and lock up Anna in the dungeon.


The kid killing he father was creepy. Of course her human DNA could Bliss humans!


I guess next season, if it happens, could have been outright action with that secret Military group coming out to battle the V's.

 

[Mikel_Cooperman]

Originally Posted by Will_B

Well Diana was just stunt casting to attract old fans, and her inability to act kept her in the basement. And as for Bacaarin, she was the reason she show got wide exposure at the start, because she was welcomed by pretty much every talk show on the planet, especially women's talk shows. That audience did not stick around, but it is why the show started strong.


I thought Bacaarin was the worst part of the series. We get it, you're not suppose to have emotion but her delivery was always wooden to me.

As for Diana, I am sure that decision was made to bring back Diana to attract the old fans (like myself). It was a stunt and it when they found out that stunt didn't work, they offed her and at the same time flipping everyone off.

 

[Mikel_Cooperman]

Originally Posted by Will_B

Well Diana was just stunt casting to attract old fans, and her inability to act kept her in the basement. And as for Bacaarin, she was the reason she show got wide exposure at the start, because she was welcomed by pretty much every talk show on the planet, especially women's talk shows. That audience did not stick around, but it is why the show started strong.

I thought Bacaarin was the worst part of the series. We get it, you're not suppose to have emotion but her delivery was always wooden to me.

As for Diana, I am sure that decision was made to bring back Diana to attract the old fans (like myself). It was a stunt and it when they found out that stunt didn't work, they offed her and at the same time gave everyone the big Middle finger.

 

[Greg_S_H]

Oh, well. I enjoyed the finale. I'd watch it if it came back.

 

[Adam Lenhardt]

So would I.


If I were Anna, I'd be really worried about having a mediator with the physical maturity of an 11 year old and the emotional maturity of a one year old with the entire world's human population in the palm of her hand. Especially one who just killed her father and who you happen to be keeping some really big lies from. The whole point of the complex machinations with Tyler and all of the live aboards was to breed an heir that is the next stage of evolution. Well guess what? One of your drones knocked boots with a native, and beat you to the punch. Clearly Amy is way more powerful than Anna. The only leverage Anna has is that Amy is crazy devoted to her right now. She kills Amy off when her own part human heir hatches, the human population will revolt at the murderer of their protector or whatever the hell it is she said she was while presenting the bliss. She doesn't kill Amy off, and it's only a matter of time before Amy does to Anna what Anna did to Diana. Not to mention that Diana just really, really pissed off her other real daughter. If she wasn't willing to pull the trigger the first time, she'd certainly be able to if presented with a second time. So yeah, Anna's won in the short term. But she's surrounded by enemies. And more than one has bigger claws than she does.


(Is the tail limited to the female Visitors? Sort of like a reverse sexual differentiation?)


I also liked that the world governments, while embracing Anna publicly, have been uniting to destroy her underground. The only flaw, as mentioned, is that such a vast conspiracy wouldn't be aware that a close associate of two of their agents is the leader of the global Fifth Column. I will say that them being anti-V is a much better reveal then them being yet more sleeper Vs, and it helps explain why they pretty much knew that Erica was betraying the FBI for so long and didn't really do anything about it.

 

[Adam Gregorich]

I agree with Greg. I enjoyed it and I'd watch it if its renewed. Overall the last few episodes have been a bit of a downer with everything the 5th element tries completely backfiring, not even a small victory. With three main characters killed, and one with both feet in the grave it was an episode that sucked for the good guys....

 

[xfile94]

Does anybody really think that V will be renewed for another season? I have watched numerous shows in their first season, only to be angered by their cancellation. Yes, I watched all of the new V because I remembered the original, but was disappointed the whole time--hoping something would happen to make me love it. Maybe I shouldn't put any faith in these "remakes" because they always disappoint me. I just remember the V years ago--that was a completely different time!!!

 

[Mikel_Cooperman]

There was nothing to really make you route for any of these characters and that is one of the reasons why it failed.

There was no "Soul."

 

[MikeEn]

Originally Posted by Mikel_Cooperman
There was no "Soul."

I dunno -- every time I saw Tyler, I yelled out "a soul!" Or something like that.

 

[Greg_S_H]

"Anna, have you seen my son?" "He and Lisa went out for a bite."

 

[DaveF]

I don't think I'll continue watching next season. I've watched and mostly enjoyed the whole season; even defended it as adequate fluff entertainment. But the season ender leaves me uninterested, ironically as it was one of the better episodes.



Maybe I'm annoyed that the writers are lousy and lurch about, tossing in their variations of what good writers do. This episode it was as if they'd just been a Whedon bender and thought, "Juss kills characters, and people love his stuff! That's what we're missing,killing characters!" And so they pencil in deaths of three characters. But they didn't earn it. The setup wasn't there. We don't care enough.



And also because the plan to have Lisa kill Anna was obviously a doomed idea from the start -- Lisa lacks the gumption to kill her own mother, and that's no secret. Or because, even if Lisa could kill her mother, that was the wrong way to do it. In V culture, Lisa needed to kill her mother in public and assume control of the Vs.



Or because they continue to hamfistedly work "V" into the actual design and culture of the aliens, who are certainly not known to themselves as "V"s.



Or the fact that any two-bit PI could connect Erica to the 5th Column, but Anna with her intergalatic technology can't?


Maybe I'm realizing that I'm watching mediocre TV when there's a wealth of high quality shows available that I could watch instead, by spending a few bucks on Netflix.

 

[Stan]

Originally Posted by xfile94

Does anybody really think that V will be renewed for another season? I have watched numerous shows in their first season, only to be angered by their cancellation. Yes, I watched all of the new V because I remembered the original, but was disappointed the whole time--hoping something would happen to make me love it. Maybe I shouldn't put any faith in these "remakes" because they always disappoint me. I just remember the V years ago--that was a completely different time!!!

Found and interview dated March 15 with Elizabeth Mitchell that sounds hopeful, here are a few quotes.


TVLINE [COLOR= #888888]|[/COLOR] What would a Season 3 look like? Will Erica & Co. be fending off a global invasion every week, or will the drama get smaller in scale?
I liken up until now to Rocky I, and I feel like Season 3 would be Rocky II, where Erica does everything right, is the smartest woman that ever existed, is the most powerful, and everybody [on the V ships] gets completely massacred. That’s what I’m hoping for.



TVLINE [COLOR= #888888]|[/COLOR] Speaking of pilots, I have a good feeling about V getting a Season 3 pick-up, if only because none of you seem to be hedging your bets by booking new gigs.
Yeah, all of us have been saying the same thing – “Are we going to go out for pilot season…?” [Laughs] But they keep saying we’re still on hold, so that’s definitely a good sign, isn’t it? After those first six [episodes of V], I’ve really, really been having a great time, so my hope is to come back and continue what we’ve started


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Found another one, same date, on spoilersguide.com/v/v-season-3/ with Morena Baccarin. Won't let me cut/paste text.


All the interviews sound fairly positive, but being from the actors might just be wishful thinking since they probably have very little to do with the series being picked up or not.

 

[Will_B]

Originally Posted by xfile94

Does anybody really think that V will be renewed for another season?

Not a chance.

 

[Mikel_Cooperman]

If it is renewed, you think the viewership will go up? I think a lot of people feel burned at this point.

I think Elizabeth Mitchell should look for something more worthy of her talents.

 

[DaveF]

Viewership wouldn't go up next season. What's the draw? If they're not watching now, why would they start a year later?


I forsee Netflix in my future. Maybe give Fringe or watch Community; try for high quality shows than V.