Wait, I thought based on the Shane threads that aspect ratios no longer matter since every transfer has a bit of difference regardless?
"Intermission"Bob Furmanek said:
I was waiting to purchase it until I heard from a few viewers whose eyes and sensibilities about films of that era match mine chimed in with positive notices. Thanks for the recommendation!haineshisway said:I'm very surprised that not one person here has written about this transfer.
haineshisway said:I have read all the comments on the other, well, let's call them boards. I have read about DNR and NO GRAIN and soft and horrid. So, imagine my surprise when I put in the disc and saw - GRAIN. Some grain heavier than other grain (in the opticals, obviously, of which there are plenty). At no point did I not see grain. I saw opticals that were softer than the rest of the image. I saw a transfer that was not a disaster and that resembled a release print of a movie called Help. Could it be better? Mostly everything can be better. I have no idea about the elements and this transfer apparently came from a 2007 "restoration" of whatever the elements are. I enjoyed the film (but not as much as A Hard Day's Night) and the comments on those other boards were amusing, as always, and 90% of them were made by people who haven't actually watched the disc.
I looked in vain for haloes from sharpening - other than one outdoor shot, which, if I paused and blew up the image there's something there, although I don't think it's what everyone else thinks, that's it - the only time. Backlighting is not haloes. And why would they sharpen one shot out of all the shots so much that it would produce a halo, when the preceding shot and the shot that follows have no problems? That pretty much answers all questions. I'm very surprised that not one person here has written about this transfer.
I agree with everything he said I watch the disc and I went back and watch the 2007 dvd and this is definitely an upgrade don't forget about how amazing the sound is especially the beatle songs.
I'm sure that's the sequence I made note of, but I'm not sold on "ringing" or "halo" because it makes no earthly sense to me as the shots surrounding it have none at ALL.Walter Kittel said:Since would be purchasers might be basing their decisions upon comments from those who've viewed the disc, I thought I would follow up on my prior post regarding ringing. In the Ticket to Ride segment the haloing is fairly subtle. It doesn't call a lot of attention to itself and is not as pronounced as some of the worst offenders (such as the DVDs of Tombstone and Star Wars: The Phantom Menace). Once again I need to view more of the title but what I saw in Ticket to Ride would not dissuade me from a purchase.
- Walter.
This is what no one seems to understand - it happened on the Journey to the Center of the Earth threads, too - backlight produces what some here mistake as "haloes" or "ringing" from edge enhancement. My point is always the same - if you don't see that in EVERY shot in that sequence then it's not what you think it is. They're not going to artificially sharpen occasional shots to the point of causing what people call "haloes" or "ringing" - they're going to apply it to the entire transfer and therefore it would be viewable in every shot. They're not going to sit there and make arbitrary decisions like "Oh, let's sharpen this one shot so much that it causes a halo people will see if they sit one foot from their screen and really look for it." And as I've said many times, having seen just how far you have to push the sharpening to actually produce a halo, I'm thinking that whatever's on Help is a product of the filming.Russell G said:I watched this one last night on my modest set up and saw no problems. There is what looks like that natural ringing effect in some of the back lit shots, but nothing looks added or anything. It all looked age appropriate to me.
First time seeing the film too, loved it! Reminded me of the type of things Python would do later. Lennon and Ringo made a hell of a comedy team.
I've been researching Kine Weekly and this is from the December 16, 1965 issue which gives the aspect ratio of HELP as 1.85:1 on 1.65 head room. I assume they mean the picture was composed for screens of any aspect ratio between 1.66:1 to 1.85:1. However, Kine Weekly also shows that in 1965 very few films British were being shot for 1.66. They were either 1.75 or 1.85.Yorkshire said:Absolutely, 100% spot on! I mean, as ever, open to any other evidence that someone might produce. But unless that's forthcoming, same director, same production company, same studio, and made within a year of each other (more or less), it has to be 1.75:1, doesn't it?The only think...how bothered are we?I mean I know it'll niggle a little, and fair enough.But we're very used to getting 1.85:1 films opened out slightly to 1.78:1, and the jump from 1.75:1 to 1.66:1 is almost identcal. And we're not getting any of the OAR cropped off - it's a less-wide ratio showing just a little more than intended, rather than a little less.If this were an American 1.85:1 film from last year released in 1.78:1 I doubt anyone would even comment, would they? Could be wrong.But yes, to be precise it should be 1.75:1, unless they have a damn good reason otherwise.Steve W