Nelson Au
Senior HTF Member
- Joined
- Mar 16, 1999
- Messages
- 19,133
I thought this topic might deserve a separate thread from the Star Trek Enterprise Appreciation thread. I'll focus on future Star Trek television projects.
My feeling from what I've read of comments from Paramount and current Enterprise producers, that the franchise needs a short time off to rest, is sinking in. The Franchise in my opinion is being taken for granted by the audience. That is in part, part of the reason Enterprise didn't recover this 4th year in spite of the changes in production personnel and improved stories. The Franchise has been on a very long time, so there's bound to be audience members who are not Trek fans who will tune out to new stuff. The success of Stargate, Smallville and now Battlestar Galactica is a good example. Gunsmoke and Hawaii Five-O were on TV a very long time too and I remember tuning out of those shows towards the later years. I don't want to see the discussion that Berman and Braga are at fault, and new blood is needed, that's been discussed to death already!
Current Star Trek Enterprise producer Manny Coto has made some recent comments about a future series already. He wants to pitch to Paramount on a new series that could be set in the future beyond The Next Generation. For now, he's off on a new project as a producer on "24". He knows timing will be key when the audience will "want" to see more new Star Trek. He'll wait till the time is right. Also Paramount has changed, and the executives who used to champion the franchise are longer there. As are the new political forces involved at CBS and UPN that couldn’t see a future for Star Trek. My guess is it will be off for 2 to 3 years, but it could go to 5 years. By that time, Galactica, Stargate, Smallville could all be off the air. Maybe the Enterprise cancellation starts a trend.
So what will be the next incarnation of Star Trek on TV? Star Trek 11, the next Star Trek feature film, sounds like it will take place some time after Enterprise, and will deal with the Romulan Wars. (Hmm, Attack of the Clones?) If that movie does well, if and when it gets made, and if it does concern the Romulan Wars, one path for a TV show could be to spin it off the film, and that crew and ship. Maybe even concern Enterprise, a Captain Stiles or the TOS era. Consider the groundswell of the popularity of the heartfelt efforts of fan made films like Exeter and New Voyages. These go back to the Kirk era. Evidence that the fans are hungry for something new and perhaps that new is “old”. But Retro-Star Trek has been done with Enterprise. And it’s full of problems, like dealing with a modern show that tries to look like a show done before a TV show that was done in the 1960’s, not to mention the continuity issues. The show has to look new.
Seems of all the Star Trek TV series after TOS, The Next Generation was most successful, for many reasons. Little to no competition from other genre shows on any network, it was the first new Star Trek on TV after TOS, and it developed into a good show that captured the following of a new generation of fans, old and new. So perhaps the new series should concern another incarnation of a starship named Enterprise. The name Enterprise is a very important component to the Star Trek formula.
But would a future audience be better served with Star Trek that is edgy, MTV style and sexy and youthful? Perhaps a show that is nothing like Star Trek of old? Given the Star Trek format, will a new show feel like “been there and done that”? A TV show with Starships in space exploring new worlds as allegory for making commentary on contemporary issues has been done very successfully once. And then there’s also J. Michael Straczynski who had tried to pitch to Paramount to do a future Star Trek. There’s another point of view there.
Finally, whoever the Producer is involved, I would think whatever the next feature film is about, it should be tied or relate to a new series. The same way Star Trek 6-The Undiscovered Country was linked to the TNG episode, Reunification, they go hand in hand.
As a very longtime fan of Star Trek, going through TOS as a kid, waiting for the rebirth during the 70’s, then 6 TOS features films and then doubting, but then accepting TNG, then onto DS9, Voyager and Enterprise, I have to ask myself, do we need more? It’s been a great ride so far with some bumps along the way, but a class act the whole time. I hope there is a new exciting Star Trek in the near future, and I really hope it’s good enough to earn the respect of the fans and non-fans and also honor Gene Roddenberry and those from the TOS cast and creative team that created the original.
Enterprise is dead, long live Star Trek.
My feeling from what I've read of comments from Paramount and current Enterprise producers, that the franchise needs a short time off to rest, is sinking in. The Franchise in my opinion is being taken for granted by the audience. That is in part, part of the reason Enterprise didn't recover this 4th year in spite of the changes in production personnel and improved stories. The Franchise has been on a very long time, so there's bound to be audience members who are not Trek fans who will tune out to new stuff. The success of Stargate, Smallville and now Battlestar Galactica is a good example. Gunsmoke and Hawaii Five-O were on TV a very long time too and I remember tuning out of those shows towards the later years. I don't want to see the discussion that Berman and Braga are at fault, and new blood is needed, that's been discussed to death already!
Current Star Trek Enterprise producer Manny Coto has made some recent comments about a future series already. He wants to pitch to Paramount on a new series that could be set in the future beyond The Next Generation. For now, he's off on a new project as a producer on "24". He knows timing will be key when the audience will "want" to see more new Star Trek. He'll wait till the time is right. Also Paramount has changed, and the executives who used to champion the franchise are longer there. As are the new political forces involved at CBS and UPN that couldn’t see a future for Star Trek. My guess is it will be off for 2 to 3 years, but it could go to 5 years. By that time, Galactica, Stargate, Smallville could all be off the air. Maybe the Enterprise cancellation starts a trend.
So what will be the next incarnation of Star Trek on TV? Star Trek 11, the next Star Trek feature film, sounds like it will take place some time after Enterprise, and will deal with the Romulan Wars. (Hmm, Attack of the Clones?) If that movie does well, if and when it gets made, and if it does concern the Romulan Wars, one path for a TV show could be to spin it off the film, and that crew and ship. Maybe even concern Enterprise, a Captain Stiles or the TOS era. Consider the groundswell of the popularity of the heartfelt efforts of fan made films like Exeter and New Voyages. These go back to the Kirk era. Evidence that the fans are hungry for something new and perhaps that new is “old”. But Retro-Star Trek has been done with Enterprise. And it’s full of problems, like dealing with a modern show that tries to look like a show done before a TV show that was done in the 1960’s, not to mention the continuity issues. The show has to look new.
Seems of all the Star Trek TV series after TOS, The Next Generation was most successful, for many reasons. Little to no competition from other genre shows on any network, it was the first new Star Trek on TV after TOS, and it developed into a good show that captured the following of a new generation of fans, old and new. So perhaps the new series should concern another incarnation of a starship named Enterprise. The name Enterprise is a very important component to the Star Trek formula.
But would a future audience be better served with Star Trek that is edgy, MTV style and sexy and youthful? Perhaps a show that is nothing like Star Trek of old? Given the Star Trek format, will a new show feel like “been there and done that”? A TV show with Starships in space exploring new worlds as allegory for making commentary on contemporary issues has been done very successfully once. And then there’s also J. Michael Straczynski who had tried to pitch to Paramount to do a future Star Trek. There’s another point of view there.
Finally, whoever the Producer is involved, I would think whatever the next feature film is about, it should be tied or relate to a new series. The same way Star Trek 6-The Undiscovered Country was linked to the TNG episode, Reunification, they go hand in hand.
As a very longtime fan of Star Trek, going through TOS as a kid, waiting for the rebirth during the 70’s, then 6 TOS features films and then doubting, but then accepting TNG, then onto DS9, Voyager and Enterprise, I have to ask myself, do we need more? It’s been a great ride so far with some bumps along the way, but a class act the whole time. I hope there is a new exciting Star Trek in the near future, and I really hope it’s good enough to earn the respect of the fans and non-fans and also honor Gene Roddenberry and those from the TOS cast and creative team that created the original.
Enterprise is dead, long live Star Trek.