Nick Martin
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When it comes to Trek being re-released in a "better" format the discussion literally goes around in circles no matter where it's being discussed. /img/vbsmilies/htf/laugh.gif
Actually only TOS ran 50 minutes per episode. All the spinoffs ran 46 minutes so that is about 3 hours 4 minutes per disc which really isn't bad for a dual-layered disc. There are some TV series discs, such as The Donna Reed Show that cram over 4 hours per disc.Originally Posted by mattCR /img/forum/go_quote.gif
But the bitrate on the DVDs for TNG/DS9/etc. is TERRIBLE. No matter how good your player is, 3:20 of content on every disc plus menus means in MPEG2 the quality sucks.
I think it would be misleading for consumers who aren't on forums like this to release SD TV shows on Blu-ray discs because of the confusion of them not actually being HD.Originally Posted by mattCR /forum/thread/279778/star-trek-deep-space-nine-any-plans-for-a-remaster/30#post_3679795
So, what prevents manufacturers from putting out DVD content on BD, if for no other reason then cost savings in production/shipping/buyer convenience. 1BD=6DVD (rough) you'd pack a full season on one disc. You'd think this would be a no-brainer for several series looking for release. But that's me
As was already mentioned, 4 episodes of TOS that were remastered fit on a single dual layer disk so space isn't the issue here for DS9 episodes. I would venture at three reasons why not to release SD content on BR right now:Originally Posted by mattCR /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The Blueray spec allows for MPEG2. Several titles do use it.. there is no requirement on resolution rate. So, what prevents manufacturers from putting out DVD content on BD, if for no other reason then cost savings in production/shipping/buyer convenience. 1BD=6DVD (rough) you'd pack a full season on one disc. You'd think this would be a no-brainer for several series looking for release. But that's me
Agreed - what is so wrong with BR discs that are the BEST presentation of current material? You can't get any more broadcast quality than a clean transfer from the VT masters to BR - most likely will look as Good (if not better) Than broadcast!Originally Posted by mattCR
God, I don't care about a huge redo, just release it with a hell of a lot better bitrate. The DVDs that exist look poor; lots of blocking and artifacts.. just increase the bitrate and it'd improve it greatly.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not sure increasing the bitrate will provide that much improvement when it is probably the source itself that contains the majority of the issues. I'm not an expert by any means but here is my reasoning:mattCR said:/forum/thread/279778/star-trek-deep-space-nine-any-plans-for-a-remaster/30#post_3809333
Agreed - what is so wrong with BR discs that are the BEST presentation of current material? You can't get any more broadcast quality than a clean transfer from the VT masters to BR - most likely will look as Good (if not better) Than broadcast!
It could just be the amount of dark scene's as mentioned about the space station that are having difficulty being resolved with any detail. Especially since I saw no glaring issues in Enterprise that I just finished. I picked up DS9 a while back to have in my collection but have not watched it since seeing the original broadcast. Do you have any examples where this is readily apprarent that I could skip to. I watch on a 92" 16x9 projection system so i would think some like this should stand out.Originally Posted by mattCR
Part of it may be the source.. but I don't think as much as all that. I judge by this: my recordings taken off of TV (I believe TNT, but I'd have to check)- a few years back look MUCH better then the DVD. The DVD has blocking, places where black becomes grey... etc. You have to remember, the original series worked with a ton of Primary colors and large areas.. so an average bitrate should have worked to it's advantage.. in the same way that a bitrate such as that would cover everything that "Star Trek: TAS" could offer. You are correct, there is probably some things with the media that can't be corrected; but when you have obvious MPEG artifacts in a black field that should be space (blocking artifacts) those wouldn't exist in any form until it was digital.. even if it was originally on video, it wouldn't have blocking artifacts.