Remake of The Wicker Man in the works (BEWARE SERIOUS SPOILER IN LINK!)

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Aryn Leroux, Aug 28, 2001.

  1. Aryn Leroux

    Aryn Leroux Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2001
    Messages:
    1,516
    Likes Received:
    1
  2. Cees Alons

    Cees Alons Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 1997
    Messages:
    19,315
    Likes Received:
    289
    Real Name:
    Cees Alons
    Aryn,
    I changed your topic title to warn members that the story in the link you gave contains a very serious spoiler.
    Whoever didn't see The Wicker Man yet and doesn't want to have his/her experience spoiled, do not read that article!
    Cees
    [Edited last by Cees Alons on August 28, 2001 at 03:50 AM]
     
  3. Julie K

    Julie K Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    1,962
    Likes Received:
    0
    Urk. Where's that puke smiley now that I really need it?
    I believe this says it all:
    quote:
    "I was told it was a very remarkable film in some ways, but when I went to see it at a showing in New York I didn't think it was that good," said one executive. "However, it is a very 'remakable' film and when Nicolas Cage suddenly became interested we started to respond to it."
    [/quote]
    Somehow I'm just not surprised that (1) an exec at Universal doesn't like one of the most unusual and fascinating films I've ever seen and (2) he only got interested in it because of a big name star. [​IMG]
    BTW, I've been thinking about spoilers wrt Wicker Man. Of course, everything should be done to protect plot points from those who haven't seen it, but...what about the title itself?
    ------------------
    My DVDs
    "Some people think I'm over-prepared, paranoid...maybe even a little crazy. But they never met any pre-Cambrian life forms, did they?"
    [Edited last by Julie K on August 28, 2001 at 07:29 AM]
    [Edited last by Julie K on August 28, 2001 at 07:30 AM]
     
  4. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 1998
    Messages:
    21,763
    Likes Received:
    2
    All true, Julie, but the article also says that Neil LaBute is attached to the project. If LaBute writes the script and directs, the results could be interesting. He has a knack for presenting obsessed, repellant characters in a way that makes them seem both logical and compelling (the best example being his series of one-act plays called Bash).
    M.
     
  5. Julie K

    Julie K Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    1,962
    Likes Received:
    0
     
  6. Scott Dill

    Scott Dill Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 1999
    Messages:
    116
    Likes Received:
    0
    What's the point?
    Generally speaking I hate remakes - esp. when something is a "bonafide" cinema classic already. This one looks to have no hope right from the start.
    Casting Cage as Howie seems to be a particularly poor choice ... He would more likely join right in with the Pagans instead of being a believable prude [​IMG]
    The setting of it the US makes no sense either. Part of the Beauty of "The Wickerman" was the use pagan Celtic rituals that were native to the region before the Christian invasion. There is no pagan tradition in the US to fall back on, so the entire premise would seem to fall apart.
    Maybe Cage will will feel the need to play Charles Foster Kane next [​IMG]
     
  7. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 1998
    Messages:
    21,763
    Likes Received:
    2
    The same considerations ("remakes are bad", "classics shouldn't be touched", "the setting shouldn't be changed") should have precluded Sergio Leone from remaking Yojimbo as For a Few Dollars More. I'm glad they didn't, though.
    Playwrights, novelists and filmmakers have been borrowing and retelling stories for centuries. There's nothing inherently wrong with remakes. It's just that most of them are badly done.
    M.
     
  8. Cees Alons

    Cees Alons Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 1997
    Messages:
    19,315
    Likes Received:
    289
    Real Name:
    Cees Alons
    Julie,
    I disagree with you that the title is a spoiler. The thing is part of a ritual we learn to know late in the movie. It solves a few questions, but is not particular.
    And no viewer
    Spoiler:would expect it to have a heart.
    Cees
     
  9. Scott Dill

    Scott Dill Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 1999
    Messages:
    116
    Likes Received:
    0
    Michael,
    Thanks for being so dismissive.
    My reading of the article suggests that they just want to make the same film, but with an American cast. This (IMHO) is not a good justification for remaking a classic.
    Changing a story from one about Japanese Samurai - in Japanese - to an "American" Western or adapting literature is not a remake, but an adaptation. This is different.
    The very heart of "The Wickerman" is its grounding in Celtic Traditions. I could see the story being adapted as a Mexican film in which the ancient Mayan/Aztec practices are used, but North America lacks the rich pagan tradition that would make this a true cautionary tale like the original.
    If cage and crew just uses the basic idea and finds a uniquely American version of the cult and DOES NOT use the same ending, then it may be a worthwhile story....but not "The Wickerman" and that's my point.
     
  10. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 1998
    Messages:
    21,763
    Likes Received:
    2
    Scott, I read the article somewhat differently. The key fact is that the project is "in development". Now, you don't have to watch too many "making of" documentaries or read too many feature articles on the making of classic films to know that literally anything can happen to a project in development. It can be shelved. Scripts can be tossed and redone from scratch -- and then tossed and redone again. Casting can change, including the leads. Directors come and go. Given the uncertainties of the process and the softness of the information at this point in time, there's no way to know what direction this particular project will ultimately take, or even if it will ever see the light of day.
     
  11. SteveGon

    SteveGon Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2000
    Messages:
    12,251
    Likes Received:
    1
    If this remake does get made, how much are you willing to bet that they give it a happy ending?
    ------------------
    [​IMG]
    "Death's at the bottom of everything, Martins - leave death to the professionals!"
    "Mind if I use that line in my next Western?"
     
  12. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 1998
    Messages:
    21,763
    Likes Received:
    2
     
  13. SteveGon

    SteveGon Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2000
    Messages:
    12,251
    Likes Received:
    1
     
  14. Scotty_McW

    Scotty_McW Second Unit

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2002
    Messages:
    370
    Likes Received:
    0
    Found this on Cinescape today and thought I'd resurrect the thread since production is about to begin:



    I've never seen the original, but I really want to.
     
  15. Kevin M

    Kevin M Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2000
    Messages:
    5,172
    Likes Received:
    2
    I have said before that a remake set in the americas might work as the influx of "communes" in the 50's & 60's could add credence to the idea of a rich radical buying his own island (the upper west & east coasts have many) and the rest of the story would fall into place.

    Now Nicolas Cage I am weary of, I thought a younger Ben Kingsley would have be perfect....Gary Sinise, Joaquin Phoenix, William H. Macy or William Hurt would have been my choices.
     
  16. Joshua_W

    Joshua_W Second Unit

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2003
    Messages:
    477
    Likes Received:
    0
     
  17. Kevin M

    Kevin M Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2000
    Messages:
    5,172
    Likes Received:
    2
    Oh I hope M. Night doesn't come out at the end of this remake and say "....white people...." [​IMG]
     
  18. JonZ

    JonZ Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 1998
    Messages:
    7,795
    Likes Received:
    8
    Im more worried about the script than Nic Cage, who can be very good in the right parts.
     
  19. Brook K

    Brook K Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2000
    Messages:
    9,467
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm torn on this one, I hate the idea of remaking The Wicker Man almost as much as the utter insanity of remaking Ikiru. But Neil LaBute is one of my favorite current American directors. Guess I'll take a wait and see attitude.
     
  20. Seth--L

    Seth--L Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2003
    Messages:
    1,344
    Likes Received:
    0
    re: Nic Cage

    He'll be too outwardly emotional; too forcefull. You need an actor who can got a lot across with little expression. Kevin's casting suggestions of William H. Macy or William Hurt would be perfect. In fact, I could really see Hurt in the part.

    It's really hard to imagine the atmosphere of the original being reproduced, which is what made the movie work. I imagine that everything in the American version will be big and played up.
     

Share This Page