Do all the Hitchcock Anamorphic DVD's look as bad as THE BIRDS?

Discussion in 'DVD' started by Dick, May 27, 2005.

  1. Dick

    Dick Producer
    Supporter

    Joined:
    May 22, 1999
    Messages:
    5,481
    Likes Received:
    1,543
    Real Name:
    Rick
    THE BIRDS looked absolutely stunning on my 32" direct view. Even in the theater when I saw it in '63, it didn't look as good as that. For some reason, though, using all the same player and t.v. settings I use for other anamorphic discs, this film looks awful on my 46" Toshiba DLP using color streaming. The grain doesn't bother me. But it's full of artifacting and just looks terrible compared with most of my anamorphic discs. Why is this, and do all the Hitchcock's look this bad? Even the non-anamorphic PSYCHO looks better!
     
  2. RoyGBiv

    RoyGBiv Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2000
    Messages:
    229
    Likes Received:
    0
    I haven't seen the DVD of the birds, but North by Northwest is one of the best restorations I've seen.

    SMK
     
  3. Dick

    Dick Producer
    Supporter

    Joined:
    May 22, 1999
    Messages:
    5,481
    Likes Received:
    1,543
    Real Name:
    Rick
    Yes, NBNW is excellent. I meant to narrow this down to the Universal series.
     
  4. Roger Rollins

    Roger Rollins Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2001
    Messages:
    931
    Likes Received:
    0
    Universal is planning a major Hitchcock blitz in October of this year. New versions of every title...and the release of the TV series....

    It's been confirmed by multiple sources.
     
  5. richardWI

    richardWI Second Unit

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    362
    Likes Received:
    0
    which hitch films are under Universal?
     
  6. GlennH

    GlennH Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 1998
    Messages:
    2,132
    Likes Received:
    7
    Real Name:
    Glenn
    Universal has released these ones on DVD (Region 1):

    The Birds
    Family Plot
    Frenzy
    The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956)
    Marnie
    Psycho
    Rear Window
    Rope
    Saboteur
    Shadow of a Doubt
    Topaz
    Torn Curtain
    The Trouble With Harry
    Vertigo

    and Alfred Hitchcock Presents TV show volumes

    Lots of good information here:

    http://www.daveyp.com/hitchcock/misc...niversal_1.php
     
  7. Jeff Swearingen

    Jeff Swearingen Second Unit

    Joined:
    May 23, 2003
    Messages:
    390
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Windermere, FL
    Real Name:
    Jeff
    Hadn't heard about these new Universal versions as of yet. Are they new transfers or just repackagings of the old discs? I'm not sure if I'd want to replace 14 DVDs in one fell swoop unless the picture quality was greatly improved.
     
  8. Vincent_P

    Vincent_P Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2003
    Messages:
    1,871
    Likes Received:
    204


    As I understand it, NORTH BY NORTHWEST wasn't truly "restored" in the proper sense of the word. It was cleaned up at HD resolution, but the film elements are supposedly still a mess and new 35mm prints can't be made that'd look very good.

    Vincent
     
  9. Thomas T

    Thomas T Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2001
    Messages:
    2,814
    Likes Received:
    795
    Save one, I think all of Universal Hitchcock titles look fine.

    The "one" is Marnie which looks downright ugly. It's the one Hitchcock title I hope Universal revisits and I would willingly double dip (only AFTER being reassured it's a better transfer, of course).
     
  10. Simon Howson

    Simon Howson Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    1,779
    Likes Received:
    0
    I hope Universal goes all out and does 4K scans of original elements in order to make the best possible HD masters. Like what was recently done to all of the Bond films.

    I imagine these films will be released on a HD format reasonably soon after the release of the format standards, so Universal should invest some time and money now to make high quality video masters for DVD reissues and for the new HD format(s).
     
  11. Jing_B

    Jing_B Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2005
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    0
    New editions of Hitch's films? Where did you learn that? Well if it's confirmed than I guess I'll have to double dip again (just like with Jaws)!!! I thought the current releases were good enough, especially Psycho and Rear Window.
     
  12. Lyle_JP

    Lyle_JP Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2000
    Messages:
    1,009
    Likes Received:
    2
    I think the only Universal Hitch disc that looks really bad is The Man Who Knew Too Much. All sorts of ugly print damage on that one!

    -Lyle J.P.
     
  13. James Luckard

    James Luckard Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2003
    Messages:
    210
    Likes Received:
    2
    I should have known this would happen. I wait for ages, then finally buy the 2 Universal boxsets last year when I have some spare cash, only to learn I'll have to replace them all, which I'll undoubtedly end up doing.

    Of course, watching Hitchcock's films last year made me rediscover why I loved them, so it was totally worth the $200 I spent for the two sets. I hadn't seen the films for about 15 years since I got on a Hitchcock kick as a kid. I'm sure I'll get something more out of seeing them restored.

    The Man Who Knew Too Much looked especially bad on the Universal disc, I'll be glad to relpace that one, and if they do a bargain package like Warner did for their Hitchcocks, with a signifigant savings for buying the lot, it'll make replacing the whole bunch more palatable.
     
  14. Joe Caps

    Joe Caps Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2000
    Messages:
    1,977
    Likes Received:
    47
    I totally agree with THOMAS T> The MARNIE is plain awful.
    the colors don't ever look like the correct colors, the picture is not sharp.
    Even worse, the sound has been fiddled around with and hoplessly filtered and noise gated.
    On the dvd there is a making of Marnie and the clips used are from an older transfer that has the correct color and better sound.,
    A Letterboxed marnie is frequently shown on TCM and it is an older transfer with far better color and great sound. they should use this tranfer for a dvd ( I transferred it to dvd-r a long time ago. )
     
  15. Gordon McMurphy

    Gordon McMurphy Producer

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2002
    Messages:
    3,530
    Likes Received:
    0
    I read somewhere (vagueness is my metier!) that Universal are in the process of transfering all of their Sir Alfred films to hi-def, including Alfred Hitchcock Presents. Whether this is for TV or DVD, I do not know, but season 1 of A.H. Presents is on the way soon.

    Have any of the Universal Hitch films been shown in hi-def on American TV yet?

    I also want to see the original mono included on Vertigo, regardless of fidelity quality. The foley on the 5.1 mix is awful (the gunfire in the opening is a sick joke, right?).
     
  16. ScottR

    ScottR Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2000
    Messages:
    2,646
    Likes Received:
    0
    The current Psycho has muddy sound. You can't even hardly make out Mother's voice when Marion is in the hotel room, although you can hear it plainly in the documentary.
     
  17. Ravi K

    Ravi K Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2003
    Messages:
    707
    Likes Received:
    0
    Does anyone else think that the current Vertigo disc is excessively DVNR'ed?
     
  18. James Luckard

    James Luckard Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2003
    Messages:
    210
    Likes Received:
    2
    Although I'm sure there are fans out there who want season sets of AH Presents, frankly, I'd prefer restorations of only the Hitchcock directed episodes, like the existing DVDs, but this time in chronological order. I have the two AH Presents discs that came with the Universal 7 film boxsets. Since the only way of getting the other two AH Presents discs was to be stupidly forced to buy 2 disc sets of films already in the bigger boxsets, just to get the AH Presents discs, I never bothered.
     
  19. MarcoBiscotti

    MarcoBiscotti Producer

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2003
    Messages:
    4,799
    Likes Received:
    1
    I knew Universal would finally come around to doing this and I excercised great patience all along. I can't believe I've actually held out for so long on some of my favorite films of all-time. I can't wait for these new releases and hope that every single one is given the full anamorphic remastered treatment with a plethora of bonus features and all the extras previously released on Universal's discs. I also hope they upgrade the cover art to something more along the lines of the classier artwork that the UK and Korea saw...

    [​IMG]

    Verus

    [​IMG]

    blech!
     
  20. oscar_merkx

    oscar_merkx Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2002
    Messages:
    7,626
    Likes Received:
    1
    good thing I have waited so far
     

Share This Page