Bluejeans and M1000 monsters . . . worth the difference in $??

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  1. Brandon Steck

    Brandon Steck Stunt Coordinator

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    Alright . . . I've narrowed my component cable options down to two. These will be an upgrade to my current Monster 2's, in case anyone wants to know. The first is the Monster M1000's, which I can get a sweet deal on through employee accommodation. Regularly a 2m set is 200 bucks, but I can get it for 80. On the other hand, for a 6 foot component from blue jeans, it's 44.95. I'm running these cables from a Denon DVD-1600 to (what will soon be) a Mitsubishi ws-65313. From what I've been reading Bluejeans has an excellent reputation for quality and bang for the buck. I'm also aware that with Monster you do pay a premium for the name. The 40 dollar difference isn't that big of a deal, especially since they're 200 dollar cables, and if they're better quality than Bluejeans I'm more than willing to spend it, but of course if Bluejeans is just as good, why waste the money. I just don't want to buy one and not the other not knowing how much of the difference is in the name. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

    Brandon
     
  2. Kevin C Brown

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    Let me ask you this: can you get the electrical specs for the Monsters? Easy for the Blue Jeans. Blue Jeans component video cables were also rated a 99 by DVD Etc an issue or two ago.
     
  3. Chu Gai

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    If those were my choices, I'd opt for the Blue Jeans stuff. As far as those being $200 cables, they are no more worth $200 than is a watch that's sold for $7.95 but has a $125 sticker on them. Let's get real here now!
     
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    Get real, Chu.
    Those Monster Cables are well-built w/ "enough" solid science behind them.
    Why don't you explain to me why you are criticizing them?
    Is is b/c you can't find their specs?.. b/c then you'd be prejudging them.

    *Refers to post above

    I don't edit my posts later
     
  5. Chu Gai

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    You must be selling them Adil and the science of making a video cable able to pass signals from a DVD is not all that difficult. It sure as hell isn't a $200 cable now. Like I said, if those were my two choices, there's no question which way I'd go.
     
  6. Kevin C Brown

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    It is very well known that Monster has exhorbitant markups on their cables. A mom and pop joint like Blue Jeans will beat them every time on quality and performance for cost. And if Monster did have absolute faith in their product, why make it so hard to compare them to other manufacturers? (I.e., by making it so difficult to get the specs for them.)
     
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    People will get religious over cables. I seriously doubt you could tell the difference between the two cables.

    Bluejeans are made with a good shield, low capacitance, low loss, and their electrical specs are given on the site. Monster is made with good shielding and who knows what else, they won't publish their electrical specs (neither would I if they were no better then the inexpensive Belden cable bluejeans uses).

    Blujeans makes excellent interconnect cables using Belden or Canare cable (both are excellent) and high quality connectors. They ship quickly and have great customer service. I recommend them.

    MT
     
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  9. Brandon Steck

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    Bob,

    Not to sound smart, but I DID say I'm hooking up a Denon DVD-1600 to a Mitsu ws-65313, or a 73411 or 73513, depending on if I can find a deal on either of the 73's.

    Brandon
     
  10. Mike Boniferro

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    One thing to note about the Monster Video 3 stuff is that it is backed by the ISF now... which in my opinion adds some security of quality to the product.
    I am too very interested in seeing some specs on the different products though [​IMG]
     
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    I agree that it's nice to get the ISF stamp of approval but $200? At least buy me dinner when you screw me like that!
     
  12. Jack Shappa

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    Is the ISF seal of approval as worthless as the THX seal of approval?

    - Cryo
     
  13. Kevin C Brown

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    I tend to think that audio and digital audio cables don't matter much. But I remember when the mass market started getting into progressive scan DVD players and component video hookups to TVs. (Not *that* long ago. [​IMG] ) I remember too many people saying that in that case, there definately were differences between cables. And one brand that I remember everyone raving about: Canare. I went with Belden, just coz that's what Blue Jeans recommends, but they also offer Canare cable too.
     
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  15. Chu Gai

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    Could you post the requirements needed to get the ISF seal of approval Shane?
     
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    Chu,
    Email them and find out.

    They typically only license a certain group of folks who are willing to go thru their training. To compare them to THX is faulty at best.
     
  18. Chu Gai

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    I'll find the specs (if I can) and start another thread. Actually I just wanted the dinner.
     
  19. Mike Boniferro

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    I emailed Monster last week for specs on Video 2, 3, the Silver stuff and the THX Ultra's....
    still waiting for a response [​IMG]
     
  20. Jack Shappa

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    Shane, why the "rolly eyes" icon? As if my question were somehow not a legitimate one. You go on to stress how ISF is not the same as THX, yet you don't have a clue what their criteria is, and one of the cables they certify won't give out the specs. Gee wonder why. You also mention THX is worthless for DVDs but fine for everything else. Got news for ya, there are theatres certified by THX that blow, and audio components certified by THX that don't compare to non-certified components. You may be correct about ISF, but you don't have the facts to back it up, so please don't pretend that you do. From all you know it could be no better than a THX certification.

    - Cryo
     

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