Turntable questions for you vinyl junkies

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  1. Steve Owen

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    I have an 80's era Dual CS-508 turntable, but the stylus is shot. It's an Ortofon "mini" (I'm not sure what to call it) that looks like this picture. (click on link)
    So, I want do start digging into my vinyl again, and for the time being, do it as cheaply as possible... yet still get something reasonably satisfying.
    So poking aorund needledoctor.com, I find this Dual Cartridge Adapter. [​IMG]
    It's $55 and seems that it would allow me to use standard mount cartidges on my turntable.
    This brings me to the cartridge. I'd like to spend not too much at first... maybe under $75? A friend has a Grado - Green Prestige Series Cartridge and is happy. anything else in the under $75 range to look at. Usage will probably be measured in single digit hours per week.
    Next up... phono preamp. My receiver doesn't have one (Marantz). For this, I'd like to try to stick as close to $100 as possible.
    Sumiko - The Phono Box - $120
    NAD PP-1 - $110
    Parasound PPH-100 - $120
    I've read that the Parasound is the way to go. Any comments? Needle Doctor seems to have only the Sumiko, and I'd like to order everything from one place if I can (plus they really helped out my friend who was doing a similar upgrade, do I'd like to give them my business.
    So with the adapter, cartridge, and pre-amp, I'd be in it for $235, which is about as much as I'd like to spend right now. Plus, I think this gives me an opportunity to get started and then upgrade the turntable sometime in the future (allowing me to hang onto the cartridge and pre-amp).
    Does it sound like I'm marching in the right direction?
    Thanks for any help and suggestions!
    -Steve
     
  2. Jack Briggs

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    I was a big fan of Joe Grado's moving-magnet cartridges. Very musical. (I've owned several.)

    What sort of Marantz receiver are you using? Are you sure it doesn't have a phono stage?

    As for Sumiko, they make moving-coil cartridges, and those do require a "pre-preamp," since they have such low output compared with moving-magnet pickups.
     
  3. Steve Owen

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    Another possibility for a phono preamp is the Rotel. It retails for about $200 but you can find used ones on eBay and elsewhere for $125 or so. Both MM and MC capable and probably better quality than the Parasound and NAD. I'm quite happy with mine.
     
  5. mike_decock

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    I've been using the Sumiko Phono Box for almost a year with good results. The only cartridge close to your price range I've tried is the Ortofon OM-10 which I would not recommend since it's a pretty poor tracker. You may want to search the archives on Audio Asylum for more information regarding your table and cartridge options.
    -Mike...
     
  6. Steve Owen

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    Mike, I did scour Audio Asylum looking for information. I even posted basically the same message as I posted here, but didn't get much response.

    I think I'll go ahead and get everything from Needle Doctor. At worst if the adpater doesn't work well with my setup, I'll be out the $55. I'll need a new turntable, but at least I'll have a half-decent cartridge and phono preamp to get started with.

    -Steve
     
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