gomezfan69
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I've had both the original releases and the "deluxe" editions from '06 and they definitely did new transfers for the "deluxe" editions.
Many seemed to generally agree that the villains did come of a bit nastier in the Donner cut. The most siginificant aspect of this being that the Donner cut mostly eliminated scenes that showed Non to be a overgrown man-child. There were some other subtle bits as well. For example, in the Moon sequence, Zod pulls out the astronaut's air hose quicker.It would have been super to have retained the more nasty versions of the villains as Donner intended.
I agree. And I can't think of one other instance a studio has done this on such an old film. I mean this was really a gift. I enjoyed it.Originally Posted by Brandon Conway
Warner spent a LOT of money for the Donner Cut. It's existence makes no real financial sense whatsoever. To complain about it being far from perfect due to the limited footage available seems to me to be borderline obtuse to the realities of the cost of such a project.
I don't recall seeing any B&W shots in the film, or unfinished effects shots. In fact they actually shot new inserts, (Clark picking up the green crystal in the destroyed Fortress of Solitude among others) and did a completely new compositing job on the rocket sequence, for which the models had been photographed, but never composted together with the backgrounds. Are you sure you've actually seen this cut of the movie?Originally Posted by kemcha
Despite what everyone believes, there are a lot of Superman fans who love the Superman II movie. I know that I do. I went to the theater to see Superman II when it was released back in the early 80's. It was one of my favourites. I'm just shocked that Warners would release the Donner Cut considering that it isn't a complete movie.
It's like Jon Favreau filming Iron Man 2 3/4 of the way through or Michael Bay filming Transformers 3 3/4 of the way before quitting and both studios opting to release the incomplete movie.
Despite everything else, Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut is not a completed movie. It's full of black and white shots, casting call shots and scenes with no special effects that it's practically unwatchable. To be honest, I'm going to buy the Superman II DVD movie until Warner's releases it to Blu-ray.
Not to dismiss the awesome job Warner did here with Superman II, but I can think of one other instance: Fox did pretty much the same thing with Alien 3. No, it isn't quite as old as Superman II, but it was well over a decade by the time the "assembly cut" was finally assembled and released.Originally Posted by David Deeb
I agree. And I can't think of one other instance a studio has done this on such an old film. I mean this was really a gift. I enjoyed it.
And ST:TMP is another great example of how limited the budgets to do these things are. I had the opportunity to work with David Fein within the past year, who was an instrumental part in getting the Director's Edition of ST:TMP done, working with Robert Wise directly as producer of the project. Paramount was gonna scrap the whole idea until he could prove that he could deliver the product within the budget in standard definition. Well, several years later we see how limiting the budget in such a way impacted the ability for a High Definition release. That Warner did enough work and provided enough funds for The Donner Cut of Superman II to not only exist but to get an HD release is remarkable, regardless of the HD release status of the Lester cut.Originally Posted by Douglas Monce
True. And Paramount surely spend a fair amount of time and money on the Director's cut of Star Trek: The Motion Picture.